2/9/10

Accurately Quoting Bart Ehrman, part 3

We now continue considering the legend of Bart the gnostic hero Ehrman as he attempts to discredit the Bible and Christianity.

Let us consider the physical resurrection:
Ehrman says he doesn't think the resurrection took place. There's no proof Jesus physically rose from the dead, and the resurrection stories contradict one another, he says. He says he doesn't believe the followers of Jesus saw their master bodily rise from the dead, but something else.
“My best guess is that what happened is what commonly happens today when someone has a loved one die -- they sometimes think they see them in a vision,” Ehrman says. “I think some of the disciples had visions.”[1]

This is fascinating as we get a window into Bart Ehrman’s conflicted mind. How so?
Well, he 1) denies that the resurrection occurred because 2) there is no proof 3) Jesus’ followers did not see His body rise from the dead and 4) the resurrection stories contradict one another therefore, 5) something else took place.

But why the affirmation of the “something else” such as his evidence-free assertion that they had visions? After all, Ehrman supposedly proved that “At least 19 of the 27 books in the New Testament are forgeries”[2] and all of them are concocted tall tales which are unreliable. Why does he still feel the need to explain the resurrection? Because he somehow knows that he cannot deny it and simply must do something about it. Why not simply state that there is no evidence, there are contradictions, the New Testament is a late dated error filled concoction and the resurrection is a quaint story like them all?

Moreover, for Bart Ehrman the issue of the resurrection is not only about no evidence, no witnesses, contradictions and visions but even if it did take place it would be un-provable:
The debate [with Mike Licona] topic is, “Can historians prove that Jesus was raised from the dead?” and he's going to be arguing yes and I'm going to be arguing no. I'm not going to be arguing that Jesus was not raised from the dead; what I'm going to be arguing is that even if he was raised from the dead, historians can't prove it, because of the nature of historical evidence, you can't prove something like a miracle. You can believe it, but you can't prove it.

Just as with science or any other field or method of research and study: history has its limitations. He might as well argue, as he does, that history never proves anything at all. In fact, let us grant that: Bart Ehrman claims that “In my class, I don't simply tell them my opinions”[3]—fine, what is be telling his students? He is presented unbiased conclusions from his historical research. He is merely presenting the historical data which proves that, for example, “At least 19 of the 27 books in the New Testament are forgeries,” the resurrection did not happen, the New Testament books are late dated, the Trinity is not original to the original Christians, etc.



This is precisely what Dan Brown argued in stating, “How historically accurate is history itself?”[4] While there is some legitimacy to this statement it is also a tool by which to deny any possibility of objectivism while likewise allowing one to deal creatively with historical facts. Let us not make the claim of pure subjectivism in history a self-fulfilling prophecy by dealing loosely with the facts—on purpose. If history is not historically accurate, how can Brown claim to base his novel of historical fact? He introduces his fictional novel The Da Vinci Code by stating, “FACT” and then goes on to claim that Jesus was married, etc.

How could history accurately prove the points that Ehrman and Brown want to make but it cannot accurately prove that which those with whom they disagree appeal to in order to debunk their claims? This is a substandard double standard.

Bart Ehrman surely knows that, for example, the affirmation of Jesus resurrection found in 1st Corinthians 15 is dated to five or so years after the resurrection as Paul affirms, in the technical language of “For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received” that “Christ died for our sins” then “He was buried” that is, He, Jesus, died and His corpse, His physical body, was buried “and that He rose again” that is, He, Jesus, His corpse, his physical body, rose from the place in which it was buried. Thereafter, He, Jesus, was physically “seen by Cephas, then by the Twelve….Afterward He was seen by over five hundred brothers at once, of whom the greater part remain until this present day, but also some fell asleep” this means, some were still alive; go and ask them, “Afterward He was seen by James, then by all the apostles. And last of all He was seen by me also.” As for the pains to which Jesus went to prove to them that He was physically present, see my essay here.

But why, when as opposed to the Ehrmanian mythos, such information has been in print for a very long time has Ehrman become enriched, a celebrity and the go-to-guy for anti-Christian publications and documentaries?
Misquoting Jesus for some reason really sort of caught people's attention in a way the other books didn't, I think in part because it's less academic than the other books…

I think people latched on to that because it made it more down to earth and they could see the significance of it better instead of just talking about it as a kind of academic exercise. That's what I've continued doing… it affected my personal faith.[5]

When asked, “Do you think the success of your books is part of a trend of fact-based intellectually inquiry that's being popularized?” he made reference to the popularity of anti-Christian intolerance (some which is very much deserved indeed):
there does seem to be an aspect of the culture war that's going on right now where the religious right that has sort of controlled religion for a long time in this country, you do seem to have a backlash against it.
On the far left of that are the new atheists, people like Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, who are really embracing atheism and are attacking religion.[6]

Ad to this the contemporaneous publishing by other anti-Christian media darlings such as Elaine Pagels with her “The Gnostic Gospels” and Dan Brown’s fact/fiction “The Da Vinci Code” and “Angels and Demons.”[7] These old conspiracy theories that Christians debunked long ago and many times since are being repackaged for an antagonistic, not very well informed, short attention spanned, pop-culture. Note that indeed, Ehrman recognizes that he succeeds by playing upon the heartstrings of his readers and not upon their scholastic minds.
In fact, it is widely recognized that the academic/scholarly critiques of Bart Ehrman’s academic/scholarly books were ignored and he merely repackaged those works, peppered them with emotionally charged anecdotes and regurgitated them directly into the eager mouth of youthful pop-culture as he rode upon the tsunami wave of anti-Christian belligerence. Indeed, Misquoting Jesus is “less academic” enough to obfuscate the facts and present readymade, scare-quote based, talking points.

[1] John Blake, “Former fundamentalist 'debunks' Bible,” CNN, May 15, 2009
[2] Ibid.
[3] Fiona Morgan, “Complete interview with Bart Ehrman,” Indy Week, March 25, 2009
[4] Dan Brown quoted in Father Jonathan Morris for FOX Fan Central, Dan Brown Responds – ‘The Da Vinci Code’ — Part II
[5] Morgan
[6] Ibid.
[7] John Blake, “Former fundamentalist 'debunks' Bible,” CNN, May 15, 2009


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2/8/10

DOGMATHEISM : The Freedom From Religion Foundation’s Annie Laurie Gaylor on the Solstice and God’s Un-Evidenced Non-Existence

Whilst sitting in for Bill O'Reilly, Laura Ingraham had occasion to interview The Freedom From Religion Foundation’s co-founder (along with Dan Barker) Annie Laurie Gaylor.[1]

The Freedom From Religion Foundation is an organization established in the USA which is a country that was premised upon the concept of freedom of religious expression.



Let us glean from the interview:
INGRAHAM: …Joining us now from Madison, Wisconsin, of course is Annie Laurie Gaylor, the co-president of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, which bought the ads. Annie Laurie, how are you doing? Merry Christmas, by the way.

ANNIE LAURIE GAYLOR: Well, merry winter solstice…it's the winter solstice…It is the natural holiday. The reason for the season….And the real reason for the season is the winter solstice. And people in the northern hemisphere celebrated this time of year from millennia with evergreens and festivals and gift exchanges because they're recognizing the real new year, natural holiday, the beginning of the new year.

There is no such thing as a “natural holiday” as nature enjoins no such thing upon us. What there is, such as in this case, is neo-Pagan atheism which promulgates awe, reverence and perhaps worship of nature as a replacement of God (see Atheism as nature worship or neo-paganism).

Note that, for example, the Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor did not seem to mind an actually Pagan inspired holiday being celebrated by the President of the USA, Barak Obama, in the White House (see here). She stated, “We should be able to get along with the separation of church and state” but what about separation of Paganism and state? Also, note that she is confusing the US Constitution’s “Establishment Clause” against a state religion which states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishing of religion” with Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists in which he references “a wall of separation between Church and State.”
Jefferson, deist or not, attended Christian church services in the Capitol Building. Ironically, The Freedom From Religion Foundation would have called for his impeachment for doing so.
Apparently, they understand Jefferson better than Jefferson understood Jefferson. The Declaration of Independence states that we have inalienable rights that have been given to us by “our Creator…nature’s God.”

Christians do not give presents because of Northern hemispheric concerns but because God gave (John 3:16), the wise men gave (Matthew 2:11), St. Nicolas gave, people need things given to them, etc.

Next, Laura Ingraham and Annie Laurie Gaylor discuss the various Freedom From Religion Foundation Billboards:
INGRAHAM: Now these ads are meant to do what?...

GAYLOR: It's meant to say something true that there isn't a God…heathens greetings is one of our other billboards and reasons greetings. And I think it's fun.

I would imagine that it is fun for her and Dan Barker to continue positively affirming God’s non-existence without providing any evidence whatsoever; fun, easy and quite lucrative. On this note the conversation continued thusly:
INGRAHAM: …it's a free country, so you can spend out your money and take out any kinds of ads like this. And you know, I actually am personally not bothered by it, but what I think is interesting is that there seems to be an orthodoxy and even a religious dogma among atheists, just as strong as that among, you know, devout Christians, or Muslims, or Jews, but you all call it winter solsticism or atheism or whatever the trendy way of referring to it is now.

GAYLOR: Well.

INGRAHAM: But you guys are just as dogmatic as the people you say people are crazy because they think this, you know, this little baby was born in a manger.

GAYLOR: There is nothing dogmatic about the winter solstice. It's reality. It's the shortest and darkest day of the year.

INGRAHAM: I mean, dogma about the fact that there is no God. You're obviously dogmatic that, are you not? Or are you up in the air about that?

GAYLOR: Well, I think that there -- you can certainly say that the God of the bible cannot be proved to be true. If there is no proof for something, we should not believe it. And more people have been killed in the name of religion for something that cannot be proved than for any other reason. And I think that many people might be pleased to know there is no God. There's no person watching over you ready to end you to hell.


Annie Laurie Gaylor displaying a plate with a bust of Charles Darwin

Note that just because one day is shorter than the rest is no reason to celebrate. They seem to do so in order to express belligerence against Christianity. This is because 1) you do not see them, for example, placing bus ads and billboards in USA Muslim communities, nor oversees in Muslim countries, that read “Yes, Hussein…there is no Allah” or some such thing and 2) their ads do not simply express pro-Solstice sentiments but anti-theism, anti-Christian sentiments. The Solstice is, for them, an excuse for expressing prejudice while most of us are expressing gratitude and love.

The issue is her atheistic orthodoxy, her dogmatheism, as Laura Ingraham emphasizes that she is referring to Annie Laurie Gaylor’s un-evidenced positive affirmation of God’s non-existence.
The key question to ask her would be, “You state that there is no proof for the existence of God, or even specifically the God of the Bible. Considering that you claim that God’s existence ‘cannot be proved to be true’ what would you consider evidence, or proof, of God’s existence?” You see, her dogmatheism goes beyond merely positively affirming God’s non-existence without evidence, it goes on to positively affirming that evidence or proof of God’s existence is actually impossible.
Note also that having not even bothered attempting to justify her dogmatheism she resorts to a favorite atheist talking point in referencing hell. This is an emotive trick which allows her, or so she thinks, to side step justifying her assertions and instead drops an emotionally charged grenade.
Since there are arguments in favor of God’s existence the fact that she offers none for God’s non-existence means that she is merely being dogmatic as even a poor argument beats out no argument.



Do not be fooled by this trick for various reasons including that there is a hell of atheism which is just as terrifying, if not more so. Apparently, employing “hell” is a one word response to anything Christian related as the interview proceeded thusly:
GAYLOR: I'm a…third generation free thinker. I was brought up free from religion.

She “was brought up free from religion”? Wow, I had no idea that she and I have that much in common.

GAYLOR: My parents did not believe in indoctrination. I do not believe that small children should be indoctrinated in abstractions that they cannot have any real way to determine whether it's true or not….
I think children should be allowed to grow up and make these decisions for themselves.

INGRAHAM: So a 6-year-old child should make decisions for himself?

GAYLOR: I think that a lot of children grow up in great fear, for example, of hell. And I think that is child abuse…there is no hell…I think this is a primitive notion. And it's very harmful to small children to have ideas that are that fearful inculcated in them by their parents and their churches.

As I have variously evidenced and have experienced in my personal upbringing that the concept of parents who believe that children should be allowed to grow up and make these decisions for themselves whilst not inserting their own ideas and guiding them towards a preferred direction along the way is a sham.

Lastly, I found this brief exchange interesting,
GAYLOR: If there are being people magnanimous in the name of religion, terrific. But many times, it is religion that gets the credit and taxpayers that get the bill. As you know, Catholic charities get a huge amount of infusion of federal money from taxpayers.

INGRAHAM: Planned Parenthood does, too. But you won't have a problem with that.


Dead silence was perhaps the best answer that Annie Laurie Gaylor could offer at this point; particularly since her partner in prejudice, Dan Barker, believes that “abortion is a blessing” and has expressed inhumane sentiments about healthy, beautiful, innocent and defenseless human babies in the womb (see here).


[1] Fox News Network, The O'Reilly December 21, 2009 - Culture War segment Copyright 2009 Fox News Network, LLC

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2/7/10

American Atheists National Convention to take place on April…

No, no, no, come on now! Not April 1st but April 2nd thought the 4th in Newark/New York City.

The American Atheists National Convention is being advertised thusly, “There's nothing quite like it! So, reserve your room for the Freethought event of 2010!”

Oh, I thought that the “Global Atheist Convention” was the Freethought event of 2010 AD (where the most erudite amongst us go to cower from debate—see here). Maybe they will bid for most Freethoughiest even of 2010 as they bided for atheism symbol of all time.

On second thought; are they American “Atheists” or American “Freethinkers”?
One may claim that the lines are blurred enough to not be lines at all but American Atheists once stated,
Atheists are NOT “secular humanists”, “freethinkers”, “rationalists” or “ethical culturalists”…Often, people who are Atheists find it useful to masquerade behind such labels.[1]

As per the modus operandi this particular sect of atheism which defined “atheism” as anti-theism, the American Atheists National Convention will be themed “BLASPHEMY?—On The Dangers of Privileging Religious Beliefs.”

Speakers will include Dan Barker (contender for the prize of most lawsuits filed), Cecil Bothwell a “Atheist city councilman” ('cause that is what matters), Edwin F. Kagin who is described as “blasphemy king” (well, you gotta have goals), Massimo Pigliucci (who recently helped up demonstrate atheistic/scientific metaphysics), Jeff [get your aluminum foil hats ready] Sharlet who is an “exposer of the Christian Right's ongoing attempt to run our government,” Andy Thomson whose interests include long walks on the beach and “evolutionary psychology, suicide terrorism” (so he will surely explain why atheists invented the suicide vest see discussion here).

Also, “National Secular Society” this “Secular Coalition for America” that, here a “Free Inquiry” there a “Council for Secular Humanism” and on it goes.

[1] “THE WEBMASTER,” “Atheism — What It Is, and What It Isn’t,” American Atheists

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Accurately Quoting Bart Ehrman, part 2

We now continue considering the legend of Bart the gnostic hero Ehrman as he attempts to discredit the Bible and Christianity.

Let us consider an example of Ehrmanian logic:
Bart Ehrman provides an example of just how difficult it is to discern the true, real and originally intended meaning of a text, if not what they text states in the first place. He makes the point that the Greek New Testament manuscripts were written in all caps, without punctuation and without any spaces between the letters (this is true only of minuscule – scriptio continua manuscripts) and offers the following example; what does this say?:
GODISNOWHERE

Does it say:
GOD IS NO WHERE

Or:
GOD IS NOW HERE

Obviously, these are two very different meanings and yet both were derived from the same sentence. It is interesting that Bart Ehrman very, very often mentions, or boasts, that many or most people have never even heard of any such information as that which he is amongst us to reveal. Well, if anyone is falling for such claims and also lacks good old fashioned common sense then sure, I could see someone being flummoxed by this. Must it really be pointed out that the context dictates what a text states and means? That the overall intention of the text is indiscernible is simply giving in and giving up the hermeneutical fight before it begins.

Let us now delve into a particular example of variants which are also said to grow from little to the insertion of entire stories and finally, forgery as Bart Ehrman, the hero of the story, is said to have proved that “At least 19 of the 27 books in the New Testament are forgeries”[1]:
these copies are all different from each other, sometimes in big ways, most of the time in little ways…

manuscripts have hundreds of thousands of differences in them. A lot of them are just misspelled words that don't matter much, if anything, but there are big differences too…

This entire story, a beautiful story that in some ways you could argue is the favorite story of people who read the Gospels, wasn't in the Gospels. It's only found in the Gospel of John, and it's not found in the earliest and best manuscripts of John. So scholars for hundreds of years have known that it wasn't part of John, it was a story that was added later by scribes because it's found only in our later manuscripts…

There are a few big ones. And there are lots of little ones.[2]



Playing Ehrman’s advocate; let us imagine that we grant that this story does not reflect an actual event engaged upon by Jesus, why is this a “big one,” what does this story reflect that is nowhere else in the New Testament? The point of the story is, at least, threefold:
1) An attempt to trap Jesus in a false dichotomy.
2) Jesus’ love and offer of forgiveness.
3) The spirit of the law overrules the letter of the law.

1) Jesus defeated falsely dichotomous logical fallacies. For example, in Luke 20:22-25 we find that Jesus is asked, “Is it lawful for us to give tribute to Caesar or not?” If He answered “Yes” He could have been reported to the Jewish leadership as He cold be said to be siding with the Gentile oppressors. If He answered “No” He could have been reported to the Roman leadership as He cold be said to be encouraging the breaking of Roman law—and Romans cared about the Pax Romana—Roman Peace over all. Thus, Jesus did the following:
But He perceived their craftiness and said to them, “Why do you tempt Me? Show Me a coin. Whose image and inscription does it have?”
They answered and said, Caesar's.
And He said to them, “Therefore render to Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and to God the things which are God's.”

2) There are simply too many references to list but simply considering a couple suffices:
Matthew 20:34, “Jesus had compassion on them.”
Mathew 9:36, “He was moved with compassion.”
Luke 7:13, “He had compassion on her.”
Matthew 9:2, “Your sins are forgiven you.”
Mark 2:5, “Jesus said…your sins are forgiven.”
Luke 7:47, Jesus said, “Her sins, which are many, are forgiven.”

3) Consider what happened when “Jesus went through the grain fields on the sabbath day. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck the heads of grain and to eat.”
But when the Pharisees saw, they said to Him, Behold, your disciples do that which it is not lawful to do on the sabbath day.
But He said to them, Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, and those who were with him, how he entered into the house of God and ate the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? Or have you not read in the Law that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath and are blameless? But I say to you that One greater than the temple is in this place. But if you had known what this is, “I desire mercy and not sacrifice,” you would not have condemned those who are not guilty. For the Son of Man is Lord even of the sabbath (Matthew 12:1-8).

Indeed, the spirit of the law is the parchment upon which the letter of the law is written.

Thus, even if we discard this particular story we do not lose any doctrine big or small or any words or deed of Jesus whatsoever.

Now, let us consider more grandiose claims such as:
important doctrines like the divinity of Christ and the doctrine of the Trinity, which weren't the original teachings of Christianity…

The earliest Christians appear to have thought that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah. In Jewish thinking, the Messiah was not a divine figure, but was a human being chosen by God to fulfill some grand purpose on earth. But over time Christians started thinking Jesus was more than just a great human or a human chosen by God. They began to think of Jesus as the Son of God in a unique sense, so that by the time you get toward the end of the New Testament period, the end of the first century, there are people thinking of Jesus himself as in some sense God…

At least 160 years after Jesus' death is the first time you have anybody talking specifically about the Trinity.[3]

In stating what was the “Jewish thinking” Bart Ehrman is actually offer merely one of very many option (which I will not discuss here since I have evidenced various in Jewish Messianic Concepts). While a Jewish belief that the Messiah would be God in the flesh is certainly hard, if not impossible, to come by let us not imagine that God is limited to that which Jewish theology would and would not allow Him to do.
By its own admission, by the fact that they expect a Messiah and one that would bring a new Torah, Judaism admits that it is an incomplete revelation without the Messiah. Within the New Testament it is quite evident that the apostles had to take baby steps in slowly understanding who Jesus is. As for the reference to the “Son of God” indeed, since context determines meaning it is quite right to state that Jesus was the “Son of God in a unique sense.” Jesus actually preferred to refer to Himself as the “Son of Man” which some have un-contextually taken to mean that He was emphasizing His humanity. Yet, that is not what this term, in this sense, means. In correlating the concept of the Messiah with the concept of the “Son of Man” we hearken back to Daniel who wrote,
I saw in the night visions, and behold, One like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him. And dominion and glory was given Him, and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations and languages, should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not pass away, and His kingdom that which shall not be destroyed (Daniel 7:13-14).

Thus, we see that the Son of Man is a divine figure whose dominion is “everlasting” which is also reminiscent of the prophecy in Micah 5:2 which affirms that the one “whose goings forth have been from of old, from the days of eternity” will be born in Bethlehem.
As for the Trinity, I wonder if he in not obfuscating between the belief in the divinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit on the one hand and when the theology began to be iron out and systematized or even when the Latin word Trinitas was introduced by Tertullian (for discerning the Trinity in the Bible see here).
A mere two examples of triadic or Trinitarian allusions:
Unfortunately the dating of the Didache is wide in range from 50-120 AD to the shorter estimate of 65-80 AD. It repeats the triune “formula” found in Matthew 28:19, “the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”—the singular name and not the plural names.

Sometime between 105-115 AD, Ignatius wrote an epistle to the Magnesians in which he stated,
…Jesus Christ, who was with the Father before the beginning of time [Ch. VI]….the Son, and in the Father, and in the Spirit…to Christ, and to the Father, and to the Spirit [Ch. XIII]…

Furthermore,
Ehrman says that no one accepts everything in the Bible. Everyone picks and chooses. He cites some New Testament's references to the role of women in church as an example.
In the first book of Corinthians, Ehrman says, the Apostle Paul insists that women should remain silent in church (1 Corinthians 14:35-36).
In the 16th chapter of the book of Romans, Paul's attitude is that women could and should be church leaders -- and he cites women who were serving as deacons and apostles in the early church, Ehrman says.[4]

If everyone picks and chooses this would include Ehrman himself, right?
As for women remaining silent in church, I have exposited that text and concluded that it is a convenient misinterpretation (find the exposition here and here).
I am not certain how “I commend to you Phoebe our sister, who is a servant of the church in Cenchrea, that you receive her in the Lord, as becomes saints, and that you may assist her in whatever business she has need of you. For she has been a helper of many, and of myself also” amounts to “women could and should be church leaders” or what “leaders” means but indeed, women in the Old and New Testament are judges, own businesses, own land, are prophetesses, deacons, teachers, etc. (see here for details).

[1] John Blake, “Former fundamentalist 'debunks' Bible,” CNN, May 15, 2009
[2] Fiona Morgan, “Complete interview with Bart Ehrman,” Indy Week, March 25, 2009
[3] Morgan
[4] Blake


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2/6/10

Haiti as Soapbox – Dan Barker, Annie Gaylor, Danny Glover & Pat Robertson Take Advantage

Worldviews are referred to as such for a reason; they are the spectacles through which we view the world and this has been recently demonstrated via the Freedom From Religion Foundation, Danny Glover, Pat Robertson, 14 hypocritical atheist groups and on it goes as they all use Haiti as a mirror that reflects their worldview.

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Dan Barker Sues Hillary Clinton

Maybe it will take this time, maybe he really will…

I thought that Dan Barker would sue Barak Obama and sue George Washington but he did not, he comes close but not too close.
The Freedom From Religion Foundation was established in the USA, a country premised on the concept of freedom of religious expression. Presidents such as Thomas Jefferson, deist or not, attended Christina worship services in the Capitol Building. The Declaration of Independence affirms that our right are given to us by our “Creator…nature’s God” and that the government protects our God given rights.

Yet, a-historically minded atheists continue to confuse “separation of church and state” with the USA Constitution’s Establishment Clause and this leads them to virtually file lawsuits if someone says, “God bless you” after someone sneezes on government property.

Well, Hillary Clinton is sure to be the next target of the Freedom From Religion Foundation’s tireless efforts to make a living by filing lawsuits in order to claim martyr victimhood status and beg for donations.

On February 4, 2010 AD she gave the Keynote Address at the 58th National Prayer Breakfast.

She referred to herself as “a person of faith,” reviewed her “faith journey” urged other to “living out your faith” and stated, “my spirit has been lifted by the musicians and the singers who have shared their gifts in praising the Lord with us.”

Setting aside the possibility of political machinations let us listen to her without prejudice and consider some of the interesting, touching and odd things she stated.



She asked the classic question, “who defines good?” (something that I explored, in part, in the essay "A Good Person"). This is something with which she has apparently wrestled as she retells of building an orphanage at the urging of Mother Teresa even whilst supporting the brutal and painful dismembering murder of healthy, beautiful, innocent and defenseless human babies with every vote.

She notes:
When I traveled to Goma, I saw in a single day the best and the worst of humanity. I met with women who had been savaged and brutalized physically and emotionally, victims of gender and sexual-based violence in a place where law, custom, and even faith did little to protect them.
But I also saw courageous women who, by faith, went back into the bush to find those who, like them, had been violently attacked. I saw the doctors and the nurses who were helping to heal the wounds, and I saw so many who were there because their faith led them to it…

As we look at the world today and we reflect on the overwhelming response of outpouring of generosity to what happened in Haiti, I’m reminded of the story of Elijah. After he goes to Mount Horeb, we read that he faced “a great wind, so strong that it was splitting mountains and breaking rocks in pieces before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind; and after the wind an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake; and after the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire a sound of sheer silence – a still small voice.” It was then that Elijah heard the voice of the Lord. It is often when we are only quiet enough to listen that we do as well. It’s something we can do at any time, without a disaster or a catastrophe provoking it. It shouldn’t take that.

She also stated:
But the teachings of every religion call us to care for the poor, tell us to visit the orphans and widows, to be generous and charitable, to alleviate suffering. All religions have their version of the Golden Rule and direct us to love our neighbor and welcome the stranger and visit the prisoner. But how often in the midst of our own lives do we respond to that? All of these holy texts, all of this religious wisdom from these very different faiths call on us to act out of love.

This is commonly stated yet one would certainly like to see quotations and citations as evidence. For example, there is only one Golden Rule and it is unique in that it is proactive and not passive as are the so called others.

In politics, we sometimes talk about message discipline – making sure everyone uses the same set of talking points. Well, whoever was in charge of message discipline on these issues for every religion certainly knew what they were doing.

Indeed, and that was God who leaves no one unguided; having written His law in our hearts which is then administered via our consciences.
Note the words of one time atheist, the late-C. S. Lewis:
If you are a Christian you do not have to believe that all the other religions are simply wrong all through. If you are an atheist you have to believe that the main point in all the religions of the whole world is simply one huge mistake.
If you are a Christian, you are free to think that all these religions, even the queerest ones, contain at least some hint of the truth. When I was an atheist I had to try to persuade myself that most of the human race has always been wrong about the question that mattered to them most; when I became a Christian I was able to take a more liberal view.[1]

She also took “religion” to task. Something with which one many levels I agree (as I elucidated in The Most Anti-Religion Book Ever Published):
all too often it is religion that is the force that drives and sustains division rather than being the healing balm…

across the world, we see organized religion standing in the way of faith, perverting love, undermining that message…religion, cloaked in naked power lust, is used to justify horrific violence, attacks on homes, markets, schools, volleyball games, churches, mosques, synagogues, temples. From Iraq to Pakistan and Afghanistan to Nigeria and the Middle East, religion is used a club to deny the human rights of girls and women, from the Gulf to Africa to Asia, and to discriminate, even advocating the execution of gays and lesbians. Religion is used to enshrine in law intolerance of free expression and peaceful protest. Iran is now detaining and executing people under a new crime – waging war against God…

So in the Obama Administration…[is] following up on the President’s historic speech at Cairo with outreach efforts to Muslims..

We are…speaking up about the perversion of religion, and in particularly the use of it to promote and justify terrorism, but also seeking to find common ground. We are working with Muslim nations to come up with an appropriate way of demonstrating criticism of religious intolerance without stepping over into the area of freedom of religion or non-religion and expression.

Again, much truth here, much rightful condemnation of “religion” much. It is interesting that 99% of the time, she should have been saying “Islam” or even “radical Islam” or “extremist Islam” rather than generically referencing “religion” or “organized religion.”
FYI: The Encyclopedia of Wars (New York: Facts on File, 2005) was compiled by nine history professors who specifically conducted research for the text for a decade in order to chronicle 1,763 wars. The survey of wars covers a time span from 8000 BC to 2003 AD. From over 10,000 years of war 123, which is 6.98 percent, are considered to have been religious.

On an inspiring note, she also stated:
Scripture urges us: “Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we don’t give up.” Even in places where God’s presence and promise seems fleeting and unfulfilled or completely absent, the power of one person’s faith and the determination to act can help lead a nation out of darkness…

looking at some of our pictures from the disaster [in Haiti]…I also saw men and women helping one another, digging through the rubble, dancing and singing in the makeshift communities that they were building up. And I thought again that as the scripture reminds us, “Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed”…

let us pray that we can sustain the force and the feeling that we find in our hearts and in our faith in the aftermath of such tragedies. Let us pray that we will all continue to be our brothers’ and sisters’ keepers. Let us pray that amid our differences, we can continue to see the power of faith not only to make us whole as individuals, to provide personal salvation, but to make us a greater whole and a greater force for good on behalf of all creation…

God bless you. (Applause.)


She is sooooooo busted, this is Freedom From Religion Foundation fodder. Your governmental reference to “faith” “God” and “prayer” is their bread and butter:
“it’s like butter, baby, it’s like butter, it’s like butter, baby, it’s like butter, it’s like butter, baby, not Parkay, no margine, strictly butter baby”—Tribe Called Quest

[1] C. S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (New York: The MacMillan Company, 1960), p. 29

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2/5/10

Accurately Quoting Bart Ehrman, part 1

As I demonstrated in the essay Bart Ehrman’s Millions and Millions of Variants (part 1 and part 2) there are more variants in Brat Ehrman’s book Misquoting Jesus than there are words in that book. Moreover, considering that he harps on alleged contradictions in the Bible it is fascinating to note that Ehrman is a walking contradiction himself: whether it is his faithless journey, his knowledge of criticism’s of him, his historical claims, all comes with a contradiction and or a substandard double standard.

Bart Ehrman is somewhat of a self-style modern gnostic; a possessor of rare esoteric knowledge. He holds the secret to the fact that the Bible is an unreliable man-made concoction of documents, that Christianity is a farce that just happened to win a political and theological struggle to survive as the fittest theo-meme and that he is uniquely knowledgeable and capable of revealing this truth to the youth and the world at large.
Then again, he actually claims that there is a pastoral conspiracy to keep this knowledge hidden from the general populous as he claims:
pastors who go to mainline denominational seminaries…learn in their Bible classes. But when they start working in the church, it's as if they forget it all, or they decide not to tell their parishioners about it.[1]

In fact, his book Jesus, Interrupted is gnostically and conspiratorially subtitled, Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (and Why We Don't Know About Them) and Misquoting Jesus is subtitled, The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why.

In this parsed essay we will be considering various claims made by Bart Ehrman as well as further considering the Erhmanian mythos but first I thought to provide a just in case and very succinctly survey some of the background information:

There are circa 5,745 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament which range from whole to fragmentary.
There are what are known as families of manuscripts which represent manuscripts found or copied in different cities.
If we merely had various manuscripts with various variants and they differed to the point that we could not group them, the problem of variants would be deleterious and not, as it is, beneficial. But beneficial how?

The erroneous and ahistorical view:

The correct and historical view:

Let us imagine that one family of manuscripts totals 1,000 copies. Let us further imagine that each of these manuscripts misspells “corpuscle” as “corpseuscle.” This one misspelled would be counted as 1,000 variants as this one single misspelled word occurs in 1,000 copies. Now, how could we ever know what “corpseuscle” was supposed to mean? Was it something to do with “corpuscles” or something to do with “corpses”?
Firstly, we would discern the meaning from the context. Secondly, we see the advantage of having families in that while this 1,000 member family reads “corpseuscle” the other families, let us imagine that they total 4,745 manuscripts agree that the reading is “corpuscle.”
It is in conducting such corroborations that we are able to iron out variants. In fact, that errors were copied time and time again within the families is evidence of the care with which they were copied. Yes, an error was made somewhere along the way but the evidence is that they were being copied reliably, meaning as is. Thus, when errors, accretions or otherwise purposeful corruptions were inserted into the text, we can find them out and keep getting ever closer to the original.

Furthermore, consider that in addition to the Greek manuscripts, there are some 8,000-10,000 Latin Vulgate manuscripts and circa 8,000 Ethiopic, Slavic, Armenian manuscripts. For a total of circa 24,000 manuscripts of the New Testament which is the most well documented ancient writing and far more reliable than any ancient work of fiction or history, certainly more reliable than any ancient work which is used in attempts to discredit it.
When corroboration is considered we conclude that the New Testament can be accurately reconstructed to what in 1980 AD Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix quantified as “A form that is 99.5% pure”[2] and which has been subsequently updated to 99.8%.

Now, let us further imagine the following: let us gather all 24,000 manuscripts and destroy them. Moreover, why not also go ahead and destroy all Bibles, all internet/computer files containing the Bible, etc. Now, let us survey the writings of the early church fathers and glean from those writings their quotations from the New Testament. We find that solely quoting from the early church fathers we are able to reconstruct the entire New Testament with the exception of a mere eleven verses (which, of course, do not affect any major doctrine).



In a previous essay on Bart Ehrman I demonstrated that there are two tales of how Bart Ehrman came to abandon Christianity and embrace agnosticism.
One is the tale of the heroic skeptic who was a Christian but later, based solely on unbiased scholarship spiked with personal academic integrity, followed the evidence where it lead and was forced by the weight of the evidence to conclude that the Bible and Christianity were fallacious.
The other tale is the true story which is that Ehrman concocted his own personal theology which is so orthodox and authoritative that it cannot be toppled by logic or theologic and whereby, peppered by personal subjective experiences, he made an emotionally based choice to reject the Bible and its God.

The first version, the scholar’s version, is succinctly stated as follows:
I was a born-again Christian in high school and I went off to a fundamentalist Bible college…I went to Princeton Theological Seminary…started finding what my professors had said, that there were discrepancies in the Bible, contradictions…my view of scripture started changing drastically…historical information affected me personally and affected my faith journey.[3]

Ehrman clarifies:
if your faith is rooted in a belief in the Bible, in a literal understanding of the Bible, and that gets taken away from you, then what do you have left? You either have to change the way you believe or you have to give up your belief.

What happened in my case is I actually didn't give up my belief because of any of this…what led me to leave the faith, [was] not my change in my views of the Bible.[4]

the problems of the Bible are not what led me to leave the faith[5]

So what did cause it? It was a mixture of personal experiences such as when a Christian youth leader visited his father as he was dying of cancer in a hospital,
The youth leader used a bottle of hotel shampoo to “anoint” his father, and tried to persuade his father to confess specific sins, Ehrman says. Ehrman says he was angry at the minister for acting “self-righteous” and “hypocritical.”[6]

While we must be empathetic to the fact of this very emotionally charged situation it is also important to ascertain what Bart Ehrman was rejecting and or rebelling against. For example, James 5:14 states that if someone is sick the elders should pray for them and anoint them with “oil” (elaion in the Greek) and not with shampoo.
Also, considering texts such as 1st John 1:9 stated that “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” I am not certain whence came the anger.
Moreover, it is a non sequitur to conclude that the minister was “acting ‘self-righteous’ and ‘hypocritical’” as persuading the confession of sins in no way implies that the person doing the persuading considers themselves somehow morally or spiritually superior—although, perhaps “specific sins” is supposed to point towards something specific which we simply cannot discern from this succinct explanation.

Now, let us come to the root of the matter which is that Bart Ehrman became such as fundamentalist theologian that he could let nothing topple his particular self-authored dogma. I am not referring to him becoming a Christian “fundie” but that he invented a theology about what God would, should, could, and would not, should not, and could not do and would let no other logic or theologic trouble his:
My understanding of the Bible changed and I became a kind of mainstream, mainline, liberal Christian who thought the Bible had discrepancies but I still believed in God and still believed Christ was the Son of God and still believed in his death for salvation and all those things.
The reason I became an agnostic is unrelated to this material…how I actually lost my faith, which was related to my problem believing that there could be a good God in control of this world given the state of things, given all the suffering and pain in the world. That's what led me to leave the faith, not my change in my views of the Bible.[7]

The problem of suffering has haunted me for a very long time…Ultimately, it was the reason I lost my faith…

I could no longer explain how there can be a good and all-powerful God actively involved with this world, given the state of things. For many people who inhabit this planet, life is a cesspool of misery and suffering. I came to a point where I simply could not believe that there is a good and kindly disposed Ruler who is in charge of it.[8]

Having dealt with the problem of evil variously (see the relevant portions here, here, here and here, to name a few) I wanted to focus on what I meant by Ehrman’s theology since this is something which I have noticed of atheists as well.
They concoct their very own theologies to the affect of: if God was then God would/could/should _____________ (fill in the blank); since we do not notice that _____________ (fill in the blank) occurs, then God is not. In Bart Ehrman’s case it was; if God was then God would/could/should not allow any evil—such as rejecting God and the Bible and urging others to do likewise—since we notice that evil occurs, then God is not.
Now, just to clarify; he claims to be an agnostic, stating, “I'm not an atheist myself”[9] partly because “I don't ‘know’ if there is a God”[10] and conversely he does not know if there is not one. This means that he cannot positively affirm nor deny God’s existence and is therefore an agnostic. Lesson to be learned is that the majority of New Atheist styled atheists today are agnostics but do not know it, do not realize it, will not admit it, or what have you. This much Bart Ehrman got right (see, History of Atheism for details on this issue).

Back the Ehrmanian school of dogmatic theology: whether his problem of evil argument makes perfect sense to you or not, the bottom line fact is that it is a theological position, one that he (and others) have invented and one that they consider so authoritative that they do not allow it to be toppled by anything.

[1] Fiona Morgan, “Complete interview with Bart Ehrman,” Indy Week, March 25, 2009
[2] Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix, A general introduction to the Bible (Chicago, IL.: Moody Press, 1980), p. 361
[3] Morgan
[4] Ibid.
[5] Bart Ehrman, “Excerpt: ‘God's Problem’,” NPR
[6] Blake
[7] Morgan
[8] Ehrman
[9] Morgan
[10] Ehrman


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2/4/10

Pandorum’s Pandora’s Box

I recently watched a pretty wild sci-fi/horror movie titled “Pandorum.”

The premise is basically that we have blown up the Earth and all that is left of humanity is aboard a space ship on a long journey to an Earth-like/habitable planet—the basic atheist vision of the future, I suppose (whether we blow up the Earth of the Sun explodes).

In any regard, Pandorum is, at least, psychologically interesting in that the various characters exhibit various characteristics from the altruistic to the utterly selfish.

I have not been able to find a transcript of too many quotes but one of the interesting dialogues comes about via Leland, who is trapped on the apparently doomed spaceship which has become inhabited by creepy-crawlers who basically want to devour everyone in sight.



Upon encountering other humans—as they were all in cryogenic sleep due to long distance space travel and were due to wake up in shifts—Leland first offers hospitality but then gasses them. When they wake up they are hanging upside down and Leland is preparing to cannibalize them:
Bower: What are you doing?
Leland: Nothing personal, guys. It's just "survival of the fittest"... Or maybe it's the brightest [mumbles] if you know what I'm saying.
Bower: You gassed us!
Leland: Oh yes! And I'm sorry, but I'm a little too old and too tired for the honorable way of hunting game.
Nadia: You better make sure I'm dead... [speaks in German]
Leland: [stabs her]
Manh: [yelling in Vietnamese]
Bower: You don't have to do this. We're on our way to save the ship.
Leland: Don't sweat it. I wouldn't have survived this long if I had a heart.

Thus, the Darwinian survival of the fittest/brightest busts open Pandora’s Box out of which comes betrayal and self-survival at all costs.

In fact, one of the main characters, the villain really, states, “God? You think God survived? He’s dead just like the rest of humanity.” Yet, the context is clearly that since the Earth is gone, humanity is gone and so there is no one left to dictate morality, no society to conjure an arbitrary social contract. Thus, he is free to express his every desire.

Some atheist attempt to argue from the cosmic insignificance of humanity to moral behavior but this is a non sequitur as one could just as easily, if not even easier still, argue from the cosmic insignificance of humanity to immoral behavior—as some reason, “eat and drink, for tomorrow we die” (1st Corinthians 15:32). Carpe despero.

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Of further, atheism at the movies, interest may be: The Collateral Worldview


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2/3/10

“GOD IS DEAD” and I Don’t Feel So Good Myself

“GOD IS DEAD” and I Don’t Feel So Good Myself Theological Engagements with the New Atheism is the title of a book edited by Andrew David, Christopher, J. Keller and Jon Stanley


Book description and endorsements; from Wipf and Stock:
In this pertinent and engaging volume leading Christian philosophers, theologians, and writers from all over the denominational map explode the black-and-white binaries that characterize both sides of the New Atheism debate.
They transcend the self-assured shouting matches of this latest expression of the culture wars by engaging in rigorous, polychromatic Christian reflection that considers the extent to which the atheistic critique-both new and old-might help the church move toward a more mature faith, authentic spirituality, charitable witness, and peaceable practice.
With generous openness and ferocious wit, this collection of essays, interviews, memoir, poetry, and visual art-including contributions from leading intellectuals, activists, and artists such as Stanley Hauerwas, Charles Taylor, John Milbank, Stanley Fish, Luci Shaw, Paul Roorda, Merold Westphal, and D. Stephen Long-provides substantive analysis, incisive critique, and a hopeful way forward for Christian dialog with atheist voices.

Brian McLaren; author of Everything Must Change: Jesus, Global Crises, and a Revolution of Hope
I was watching a TV documentary the other night that featured several highly religious parents dealing with their highly addictive adult children's drug and sexuality issues.
'Their faith seems to make them worse parents and worse people,' I said to my wife after the last commercial. I feel the same way when political leaders bring in religion to justify the unjustifiable, as they too often do. That's why I am so grateful for this brilliant book: atheism isn't just something to oppose or refute—it also can be a mirror, with much to teach us believers about ourselves and our distorted and unworthy ideas about God and religion. The atheist too is our neighbor, and God may want to speak to us all through the incisive insight of an honest atheist. Highly, highly recommended.
James K. A. Smith; author of The Devil Reads Derrida: And Other Essays on the University, the Church, Politics, and the Arts
The very shape of this book is a response to the New Atheism precisely because it refuses their narrow imagination and rationalist fundamentalism. Instead of playing by their rules, this book imagines faith otherwise in a stunning collection of poetry, prose, interviews, and images. It is an intellectual feast which seats us at the table with some of the most significant voices of our day.
Carl Raschke; author of GloboChrist: The Great Commission Takes a Postmodern Turn (The Church and Postmodern Culture)
In this exceptionally readable and engaging volume of essays—ranging from the accessibly academic to the largely belletristic—the diverse authors, along with their editors, pose one of the most effective answers to the so-called 'new atheists' that has come down the pike in recent years. Avoiding both the baroque scholasticism of so much contemporary postmodernist philosophy and the kitschy special-pleading of many popular theologians, God is Dead and I Don't Feel So Good Myself is special soul food for today's thinking Christian. . . . The book is a must read for all those frustrated onlookers who feel the new atheists have received far more attention than they deserve.
James H. Olthuis; Institute for Christian Studies, Toronto, Emeritus
A rich, diverse nuanced collection of essays, interviews, musings, poetry, and art that together add up to a generous, engaging response to the New Atheism. Readers will either be shocked or unsurprised to learn that the 'god' declared dead by the New Atheists turns out not to be the God of Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, and Jacob that Christians affirm. God is not an explanation. This volume makes a strong case that the appropriate response to the resurgent atheism is not better arguments, but patient humility, and the practice of gratitude with the fruit of wonder, and the honey of love.
Dwight J. Friesen; Mars Hill Graduate School in Seattle, author of Thy Kingdom Connected
Through insightful essays, penetrating conversations, and beautiful poetry, 'God is Dead' and I Don't Feel So Good Myself brings thoughtful theologians, philosophers, and poets together to engage, learn from, and critique the cultural expression known as the New Atheism. I highly recommend this text as a conversational form of cultural engagement marked by a careful and generous listening punctuated by conviction and humility, curiosity and critical thinking.


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2/2/10

“If There's A God, Why Are There Atheists?” - R.C. Sproul’s Oldie But Goodie

All I can say about the 1970s AD is that I was young enough to not be responsible for what I was wearing.

It was in 1978 AD when R.C. Sproul first published If There's A God, Why Are There Atheists?

Apologetic 315 has just posted a review.





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ExChristian.Net Further Discredits Itself

Some may recall the parsed essay ExChristian.Net Has Been X’d in which I produced the results of taking on a group of emotive atheists at the anti-Christian support group; ExChristian.Net.

Therein I provided a plethora of examples of their faulty logic. It is a good thing that I had the foresight to copy, paste and save the comments while the debate ensued at their response to someone engaging in reasoned discourse was to delete the entire comments section.

Well, when I noted that they, following upon the well-within-the-box-atheist-group-think-de jour took umbrage at the audio Bibles being sent to Haiti (reported here)—along with other goods such as food and water—I sought to point out their 1) lack of knowledge of the subject as well as 2) their hypocrisy (at their post Bible Band-aide).

But, lo and behold, I encountered this message: “Sorry, you have been blocked from commenting on this site.”

What is worse than ignorance (merely lacking information)?

Refusing to be informed.

ExChristian.Net’s modus operandi; 1) deal with reasoned discourse by deleting entire comment section even when it is one theist against multiple atheists and 2) deal with that troublesome theist by blocking them from posing objections to the party line.

Maybe someone will want to stop by there and lay down a bit of spankification.


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2/1/10

Odd Objections to Miracles

Paradoxically; two of the top objections to miracles are two of the planks upon which miracle claims are based.

These two seem to be 1) the natural order is obvious and unbroken and 2) miracles are rare, not predicable, events and are therefore surely fallacious claims.

These objections are rather odd considering that miracles are, by definition, events that 1) violate or bend the natural order and 2) are indeed, rare and unpredictable.

Odder still is the fact that two premises upon which the recognition of miraculous events are based are 1) that there is a natural order which is what makes a miracle recognizable and that therefore, 2) violations/bending of the natural order are evidence of miracles.

In other words, the top objections to miracles are the very premise upon which the recognition of miracles is based.

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For more information about miracles see:

On Natural Laws and Miracles

And the series “Is the Bible Skeptical About Miracles?”:
Introduction

The Apostle Thomas: Patron Saint of Scientists?

Moses as Skeptical Scientist

The Fleece

Malta’s Viper

Show Yourselves

Jesus’ Baptism

Lazarus Comes Forth

The Timing Test for Miracles


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1/31/10

VIDEO: Richard Dawkins Exhibiting Neo-Paganism-Atheism, Childhood Rejection of God, Self-Professed Erudition and Lots of Stuff He Knows Nothing About

Below is a video of Richard Dawkins being interviewed by fellow atheist Andrew Denton
Transcript is found here.

This video will automatically play parts 1-3.

Part 1 begins with neo-Pagan-atheism.


Dawkins also plays the role of Woe is me, they say that I am arrogant but I am not; now to the clip of a mean Christian calling me arrogant.
They show Ted Haggard being quite reasonable and they did not bother showing that Dawkins had likened Haggard’s church service to a Nazi rally—part of the reason that I gave Dawkins the Reductio ad Hitlerum award.

Circa 0:8:30 into part 1, Dawkins runs out of steam, gets that deer in headlights look and stammers into areas where he obviously ought not.

He was asked about a statement he made during Douglas Adams’ funeral. One thing that they did not note is that Dawkins had told the, by then obviously deceased, Adams that he misses him. But just who was Dawkins addressing? Is this atheist necromancy or vestigial ancestor worship?

At 0:2:34 into part 2, Dawkins simply ask, “Are all the questions going to be like this?”

Richard Dawkins also mentions a few times believing only in things for which we have evidence; without providing evidence to support that view and without admitting that which I outlined in the following essays: that even the hardest of the hard sciences is premised upon axioms which are assumed or intuited and not evidenced or proved:
Atheism and Science - Is There a Relation?, part 1

Atheism and Science - Is There a Relation?, part 2 - On the Difference Between Science and Philosophy: Massimo Pigliucci

Atheism and Science - Is There a Relation?, part 3 - On the Difference Between Science and Philosophy: Richard Dawkins

In part 3 Dawkins is asked about morality and falls apart as he recalls his incendiary and illogical atheist talking points about how troublesome those religious people are who think that morality extends into what people do in private and or with their sexual organs.
This is the blind leading the even blinder into taking an ice-pick in their hands and bursting their eardrums while they are at it—have a go at your tongue as well and end up completely senseless? (hint, are pedophilia and rape in private are perfectly acceptable?!?!)
This topic and his fallacious claims are covered here:
Too Sexy for My Theology? On the New Atheist Obsession with Sex

Ecce Homo’s Commandments (see # 12 “Enjoy your own sex life (so long as it damages nobody else) and leave others to enjoy theirs in private whatever their inclinations, which are none of your business.”)

He admits that he has “faith” in other scientist and has already admitted having “faith” in natural selection to fill in the gaps of his knowledge.

On one level I agree that if I was being interviewed I would not want to bother talking about myself.



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Conan Versus Jesus

Remember Weird Al’s “Conan the Librarian”?



Conan’s, this time “the Barbarian,” worldview:
General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
Soldier: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
General: That is good! That is good.

Jesus’ worldview:
Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying,
“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
Jesus said to him,
“‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
This is the first and great commandment.

And the second is like it:
‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets” (Matthew 22:35-40)


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1/30/10

Morality Debate

To all,—and in the original Greek all means all; sorry, a little apologetics humor—very little :o)

A gentlemen who runs an atheist organization has challenged me to debate.
Thus far, I know it will be in Canada, after February and on morals.

Please 1) pray for finances with which to travel (I support my wife and 4 kids on 1 income) and 2) pray for wisdom as I ain’t got too much of the smarts.

Thank you and aDios,
Mariano
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The Argument for Atheism from Immaturity

Some atheists seem to think that simply pronouncing anything non-material to be childish is refutation of the non-material (this would, apparently, include their own thoughts). Now, since I qualified the statement with “Some” and “seem” it may not be a good idea to comment, “I do not…” since I reference those who do.

An anecdote with which to begin:
An atheist wrote to me and proclaimed some form of victory in stating that his young son had asked his Sunday School teacher how the carnivores did not eat the other animals on Noah’s ark (I do not know if the son of the atheist attends Sunday School due to a mixed marriage, cultural conventions or what have you).
Reportedly, the teacher turned red and changed the subject.

It is one thing for a child to make a childish statement based on childish reasoning and be satisfied. It is quite another for an adult to reward such childish notions and then go on to proudly promulgating them.
I simply asked this atheist if his son also asked the teacher how the local zoo keeps the carnivores from eating the other animals and that was the end of the discussion as I received no response.

It is widely known that some atheists rejected God in their childhood, based on child like reasons, have not matured beyond these childish notions and thus, maintain childish-emotional reactions toward the idea of God (many actually confuse rejection of “religion” with rejection of God. And again, I said “some”).

This fact rears itself by references to the Bible as “a magic book” or “fairy-tales,” Jesus’ miracles as “magical powers,” and God as an “imaginary friend,” “sky daddy” or “super friends” who is likened to “fairies,” “gnomes” and even “the Invisible Pink Unicorns” and “the Flying Spaghetti Monster.”
Evidence of these facts is ubiquitous; here are two such examples:
Lewis Wolpert - Still a Child at Heart

Why Atheism is chosen

No doubt that this tickles those who already agree but to the rest of us it is all too reminiscent of playground bullying and role playing with superheroes. What next, will they triple-dog-dare theists to debate? Not bloody likely as yet again, the most intelligent, well informed and vociferous atheist in the world cower from debate.
As noted in the essay The New (Emergent) Atheists, part 2 of 4 the New Atheist movement, in particular, is peppered with immaturity. Immaturity is amusing; inciting the poking of fun and ridiculing as replacements of reasoned discourse.

Here is another example from Rita De Alverez’s book The Long Journey of My De-Conversion:

The beginning of my de-conversion was not about doubting the existence of God. It began when He became irrelevant. What kind of deity allows, out of impotence or apathy, innocents to needlessly suffer? There is no excuse. Such a god is unworthy of affection or loyalty. Nor could I expect this deity to protect me and my child from the evils that he allowed to befall others more virtuous than myself. Like letting go of a cherished baby blanket, a hopeless romance or finally leaving home for good, one gets to this point only when one is ready. One has “God” as long as one needs a god. I know many never reach this conclusion. I did and it’s as simple as that.

Firstly, we should most certainly be empathetic to the concern about suffering. Most important in considering such concerns is that on this topic there are, at least, two main issues: the logical problem of suffering and the emotional problem of suffering. One could provide a logically airtight refutation of the problem of evil but the suffering person will surely compare the abstract argumentation against the tangible suffering which they are emotionally felling. See the problem? Argument versus sensation.
Yet and ultimately, the the problem of evil is a logical and theological issue and must be dealt with as such. When someone is suffering you do not philosophize but rather, empathize, listen to them, comfort them and then, maybe, get around to logic at some future point.
Since I dealt with this issue in detail in the essay Quentin Smith - The Gratuitous Fallacy I will merely point out that 1) she does not know that the suffering is needless and 2) as to what kind of deity allows it; a deity who knows better that do we.

Is there “no excuse”? The logical resolution of the problem of evil asserts that there is not just an excuse but a reason. If God has a reason for allowing evil/suffering then the logical problem of evil is defeated. Moreover, this could be one single reason, could be a reason of which we are not aware, could be one with which we would disagree. Our opinion as to the reason is irrelevant as I may be said to have been evil to stand by and do nothing when my son suffered while someone stabbed him until I point out that he was a newborn and the nurse stabbed him with a needle in order to check his blood sugar. On the surface, I allowed suffering even whilst possessing the power to stop it. Yet, on the deeper level I had a reason and knew that momentary suffering would amount to an assurance of health. Thus, Such a god is not unworthy of affection or loyalty as such a God knows better and has a reason.

What we also see in Rita De Alverez is a claim from authority as an ex-Christian but one who rejected not biblical/Christian theology but rejected a straw-man, a straw-God. She states that her “cherished baby blanket” was that God would protect her and her child from evils. Yet, the Bible assures us that “in this world you will have trouble” (John 16:33) so that when we have trouble we are not shocked that we are having trouble.

Ultimately, being a strictly dogmatheistic theologian, as are all atheists, she considered the world around her, concocted a theology which demanded that if God is then God would…and since God does not…then God is not and thus, rejected a god of her own making and it’s as simple as that (see Fundamentalist Theologian Asks: “Why Won’t God Heal Amputees?” and “Why Does God Hate Amputees?” and Atheism’s arguments against theism, or Atheism’s “atheology”).

Now, again, being emotionally empathetic to a real person’s real concerns we must, nonetheless, consider the logic in noting that her invented god was utilitarian—god existed to serve her. You may recall that in the essay ITS NAME IS DOOM I quoted Martin Buber on the “deactualized self” in which he noted that when “The capricious man…says You, he means: You, my ability to use!”[1] Likewise, when Rita De Alverez says God, she means, God, my right to wish fulfillment. Imagine looking at a person who has a mirror strapped around their head and you will get the picture; you would see other people only as reflections of yourself, as utilities from which to get that which you desire.




So, now Rita De Alverez has rejected God. Now what? Is the suffering gone? Will no harm come to her? Has anything changed at all? No. Suffering and harm continue to plague her and now, she does not even have God to blame anymore.
But now there is an odd sort of comfort in accepting the un-evidenced dogmatheistic assertion that there is no God and that since the universe is cold and uncaring we can only expect that “in this world you will have trouble.”

As Dan Barker so aptly stated it, “There is no moral interpreter in the cosmos, nothing cares and nobody cares...what happens to me or a piece of broccoli, it won’t [matter]. The Sun is going to explode, we’re all gonna be gone. No one’s gonna care” (see here).

In closing, I wonder how, in a cold and uncaring universe, she defines “evil” or “suffering”? Surely, based upon personal preferences which are premised upon personal preferences. Yet, since we know for a fact that suffering, such as the poking of a needle, can be a very, very good and moral thing—how do we then condemn suffering in general as being arbitrary, meaningless, gratuitous, etc.?

You see, Jacob could tell his brothers who sold him into slavery, “As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about this present result, to preserve many people alive” (Genesis 50:20).
In affirming that “in this world you will have trouble…” the ultimate—ultimate I say—atheist answer is “…and then you die.” The ultimate answer of Jesus is “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest” (Matthew 11:28).

Atheism makes evil and suffering even worse by 1) not ultimately doing anything about it, 2) guaranteeing that it has no ultimate purpose or meaning, 3) not being able to redeem it, 4) making it for the benefit of the evildoer who enjoys themselves and ultimately gets away with it and thus, 5) ensuring that there is not ultimate accountability or justice.

The fact of evil and suffering in the world is one of the very best reasons for rejecting atheism.

[1] Martin Buber (Walter Kaufmann, trans.), I and Thou (New York: Scribner’s, 1970), p. 111

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1/29/10

Truthbomb Apologetics is Da Bomb – Free Ebooks

Following on providing the free online text of Alvin Plantinga’s Warranted Christian Belief I thought to make the interested reader privy to Truthbomb Apologetics’ provision of links to various free ebooks on various topics.

These include:
Mike Licona, What to Say to Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses when they Knock on your Door

Ron Rhodes, Challenge of the Cults: Their History, Their Doctrine, and Our Response

Darren Hewer, The Historical Reliability of the New TestamentMoreover, they list various others in the following posts:
Free Apologetics E-Book Library

Free E-books from John Piper

Featured Resource: Pleaseconvinceme.com Free E-books

Also, see Apologetics Press’ ebooks


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One Century After Her Birth, Mother Teresa is Still Inspiring…Vile Hatred

US Postal Service due to issue a stamp commemorating Mother Teresa, a proposal to which Freedom From Religion Foundation is objecting.
The Freedom From Religion Foundation was established in the USA which is a nation that was premised upon the concept of freedom of religious expression.
It seems that from about November to February they calculate their budget and go on a lawsuit filing frenzy so as to claim victim status and beg their adherents for money (much of which they waste on bus ads and billboards)—the are the underdog not under God (a little dyslexia humor).

I have detailed how the New Atheist sorts have, quite brilliantly, absconded from taking on the true dangers of “religious” extremism in the world and instead choose easy targets such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, the Pope, the Bishop and Canterbury and now—Mother Teresa. Of course, this is not the first time that she has been in the atheist’s cross hairs as, for example, Christopher Hitchens besmirched her previously.

This time, the issue is the proposed US Postal Service issuing of a stamp commemorating Mother Teresa who is:

Noted for her compassion toward the poor and suffering, Mother Teresa, a diminutive Roman Catholic nun and honorary U.S. citizen, served the sick and destitute of India and the world for nearly 50 years…
Her humility and compassion, as well as her respect for the innate worth and dignity of humankind, inspired people of all ages and backgrounds to work on behalf of the world’s poorest populations.[i]

Well respected worldwide, she successfully urged many of the world's business and political leaders to give their time and resources to help those in need. President Ronald Reagan presented Mother Teresa with the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1985, the same year she began work on behalf of AIDS sufferers in the U.S. and other countries. In 1997, Congress awarded Mother Teresa the Congressional Gold Medal for her “outstanding and enduring contributions through humanitarian and charitable activities.”[ii]

In 1979 AD, she also received the Nobel Peace Prize for her humanitarian work.
Born in 1910 AD, it was at the age of 18 that she, “realized my vocation was towards the poor…From then on, I have never had the least doubt of my decision.”[iii]
While not doubting her decision to do more good for the world in one day than the likes of the Freedom from Religion Foundation (FFRF) will do in a lifetime, she did experience bouts of doubts about God. She was a true and honest skeptic who wrestled with doubts about God even whilst helping those whom she believed God had created, those whom the Hindu cast system had cast off.




Note the specific reasons to which the US Postal Service (USPS) appealed in issuing the stamp. This comes into play when considering the utter illogicality behind the FFRF’s objections. FFRF co-founder Annie Laurie Gaylor stated the following about the USPS’s criterions for considering the issuance of stamps as she notes that criterion No. 6 should have been a stumbling block:
…Stamps or stationery items shall not be issued to honor fraternal, political, sectarian, or service/charitable organizations…The organization she ran and was inextricably identified with, Missionaries of Charity, was both sectarian (Roman Catholic) and a service/charitable organization.[iv]

I love how they hide their prejudice behind concerns for the integrity of USPS regulations.
Let us attempt to follow the bounding ball of logic:
1) Criterion No. 6 states that stamps shall not be issued to various organizations.
2) But the organization Mother Teresa ran and was inextricably identified with Roman Catholicism, etc.
3) Therefore, her organization is not being honored on the stamp: Mother Teresa is being honored.
It is really as simple as that: her organization cannot be honored and it is not, she is being honored and thus, the FFRF’s objections are discredited, null and void.

USPS spokesman Roy Betts:
expressed surprise at the protest, given the long list of previous honorees with strong religious backgrounds, including Malcolm X, the former chief spokesman for the Nation of Islam, and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., a Baptist minister and co-founder of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.
“In fact we honored Father Flanagan in 1986 for his humanitarian work. This has nothing to do with religion or faith”…

Mother Teresa is not being honored because of her religion, she's being honored for her work with the poor and her acts of humanitarian relief…Her contribution to the world as a humanitarian speaks for itself and is unprecedented… He said the Mother Teresa stamp, like other stamp subjects, will “stand the test of time, reflect the cultural diversity of our nation and have broad national appeal.”[v]

Now, what does the FFRF do when refuted by troublesome things such logic and facts? They merely tread on:
Gaylor said the atheist group opposed Father Flanagan's stamp but not those for King and Malcolm X, because she said they were known for their civil rights activities, not for their religion.
Martin Luther King “just happened to be a minister,” and “Malcolm X was not principally known for being a religious figure,” she said.
“And he's not called Father Malcolm X like Mother Teresa. I mean, even her name is a Roman Catholic honorific…she was doing was to promote religion, and what she wanted to do was baptize people before they die”
Gaylor said the foundation's only concern is the “other things that deserve to be commemorated but are not because the people behind it didn't have the power of the Catholic church.”
“It's enormously difficult to get them…and people have huge campaigns, and to me this speaks of the power of the Roman Catholic Church in hierarchy. They want to make her a saint and this is part of the PR machine.[vi]

Martin Luther King “just happened to be a minister” in the same way that Richard Dawkins just happens to be an atheist. “Malcolm X was not “called Father Malcolm X” because he was not a Roman Catholic priest but the one time chief spokesman for the Nation of Islam who later embraced non-Nation of Islam Islam (and who was also known as El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz).
It is all a vast Roman Catholic conspiracy to do what exactly? The Roman Catholic Church put its power behind honoring a Baptist and Muslim?—rage against the PR machine, fight the power and so on. No, no, just this one nun—apparently, they do not wield much power.

Note that the FFRF “is encouraging its supporters to purchase the new stamp honoring the late actress Katharine Hepburn, who was an atheist, instead.”[vii] Hepburn, “told the Ladies’ Home Journal in 1991, ‘I'm an atheist, and that's it. I believe there's nothing we can know except that we should be kind to each other and do what we can for other people.’”[viii]
Of course, being kind to each other and doing what we can for other people is a non sequitur from presupposing atheism. But recall that Annie Laurie Gaylor’s objection was that—while Mother Teresa’s organization was not being honored—“The organization she ran and was inextricably identified with” Roman Catholicism, etc. Thus, the objection is that her humanitarian deeds were done though the premise of Roman Catholicism.
Moreover, Gaylor stated, “You can't really separate her being a nun and being a Roman Catholic from everything she did.”[ix] Let us grant this and logically follow it by stating that since Katharine Hepburn premised her humanitarian claims on atheism, you can't really separate her being a humanitarian and being an atheist from everything she did (which is what, exactly?).
Now, Mother Teresa conducted humanitarian work for some eight decades. But the FFRF support a stamp honoring an actress. Why the one over the other? Because Katharine Hepburn was an atheist and so is being supported due to her atheism.

But there is one more objection up the FFRF’s sleeves:
Gaylor said Mother Teresa infused Catholicism into her secular honors — including an “anti-abortion rant” during her Nobel Prize acceptance speech — and that even her humanitarian work was controversial.[x]

Indeed, the FFRF seek to, “use this opportunity to enlighten friends and colleagues about the darker side of Mother Teresa's religious activism” which includes the “a disturbing, befogged religious rant”[xi] against abortion which they reiterated thusly:
Here's another objection: Mother Teresa used almost every public occasion, including her acceptance speech for the Nobel prize, to promote Roman Catholic dogma, especially its antiabortion ideology…Even during her Nobel acceptance, the nun delivered a gratuitous tirade against abortion.[xii]

But why is this a problem? It is because the FFRF supports the brutal, dismembering murder of healthy, beautiful, innocent and defenseless human babies. FFRF co-founder Dan Barker stated that “abortion is a blessing” and generally has a very low view of human dignity and worth, particularly with regards to babies in the womb.

Other notables have made relevant comments such as the Pacific Justice Institute’s President Brad Dacus:
Just when you think the atheists and anti-religionists have run out of things to complain about, they attack Mother Teresa, one of the great role models of the last century. We are encouraging anyone who has been inspired by Mother Teresa to join us in writing letters of appreciation to the U.S. Postal Service to counter the ridiculous complaints they are receiving from the FFRF.[xiii]

Bruce Sheiman, an atheist and author who wrote An Atheist Defends Religion (imagine that; an atheist defends religion while Christians condemn it):
said the Freedom from Religion Foundation is being “hypocritical” and really “stepping over the line.”
“Clearly there are a number of things that you can point to and say it's religious and a number of things you can point to and say that it's areligious…So it really doesn't make sense to protest it.”
He said the Foundation's campaign stems from concern that the abundance of humanitarian work done by believers will overshadow that done by atheists.
“Like billboards and bus ads, this is just part of the whole campaign that they're doing to make non-belief more visible.”[xiv]


Lastly, note that “Hindu leaders have applauded the stamp decision. Rajan Zed, head of the Universal Society for Hinduism, called it an honor to all of India.”[xv]

Overall, the FFRF’s illogical objections are quite obviously a very thinly veiled excuse for expressing prejudice and attempting to gain support and funds.

[i] Diane Macedo, “Atheist Group Blasts Postal Service for Mother Teresa Stamp,” Fox News, January 28, 2010
[ii] Bob Unruh, “Atheists attack Mother Teresa Say she's not worthy of memorial stamp,” World Net Daily, January 25, 2010, © 2010 WorldNetDaily
[iii] Ibid.
[iv] Ibid.
[v] Macedo
[vi] Ibid.
[vii] Ibid.
[viii] Unruh
[ix] Macedo
[x] Ibid.
[xi] Unruh
[xii] Ibid.
[xiii]Save Mother Teresa Postage Stamp Campaign begins - Atheist Group Assails Mother Teresa Postage Stamp,” Oregon Faith Report, January 28, 2010 [xiv] Macedo
[xv] Oregon Faith Report

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1/28/10

Haiti and the Hypocrisy of Christian Theology - Richard Dawkins

Yet again, Richard Dawkins’ amen chorus of adherents have come to the rescue of his illogicality and belligerence. He has taken it upon himself to accuse Christian theology of hypocrisy by juxtaposing the deluge with the earthquake that occurred in Haiti.[1]

Firstly, note that his condemnation of Christian theology, or anything at all for that matter, may be utterly disregarded due to the fact that he has no premise upon which to base his condemnations—none beyond his personal preferences which he bases upon his personal preferences.

When he was asked how he would show someone who broke into an old man’s house and murdered him that what they had done was wrong he responds, in part, by imagining what he would say to such as person:

“This is not a society in which I wish to live. Without having a rational reason for it necessarily, I'm going to do whatever I can to stop you doing this.”
I couldn't, ultimately, argue intellectually against somebody who did something I found obnoxious. I think I could finally only say, “Well, in this society you can't get away with it” and call the police. I realise this is very weak…”[2]

1) That that would not be “a society in which I wish to live” is irrelevant as the burglars do want that society and now it is survival of the fittest.
2) He admits that he has no “rational reason for it necessarily” and “couldn't, ultimately, argue intellectually.”
3) That he would “call the police” presupposes that the police agree with him. If he called the police in Nazi Germany to complain about the mistreatment of Jews he would have been summarily placed in a camp.
4) Indeed, “this is weak.”

Yet, Richard Dawkins does take a solid stance on evil.On pedophilia; he references “gentle pedophiles” and thinks that too much is being made of it (see here).He makes a habit of referring to those with whom he disagrees in Hitlerian terms (for which I gave him The Reductio ad Hitlerum Award).
As for Adolf Hitler’s Nazism, (as stated to byFaith Magazine), “What’s to prevent us from saying Hitler wasn’t right? I mean, that is a genuinely difficult question.”As for parents who raise their children according to their “religion” (as stated to the Telegraph), “It is evil to describe a child as a Muslim child or a Christian child. I think labelling children is child abuse and I think there is a very heavy issue.”
Let us consider Richard Dawkins’ latest example of the lucidity with which he expresses his own ignorance and then rages against his very own misunderstandings.
He argues that while the earthquake was a natural event unconcerned with sin or human suffering and that “The religious mind” that is, the mind of the overwhelming majority of the entire planet’s population:

…restlessly seeks human meaning in the blind happenings of nature. As with the Indonesian tsunami, which was blamed on loose sexual morals in tourist bars; as with Hurricane Katrina, which was attributed to divine revenge on the entire city of New Orleans for harboring a lesbian comedian, and as with other disasters going back to the famous Lisbon earthquake and beyond, so Haiti's tragedy must be payback for human sin.

But where are the plethora of quotations and citation to such sentiment expressed, as if with one voice, by the overwhelming majority of the entire planet’s population? It comes down to a fallacious generalized assertion and one single name, you guessed it, “Pat Robertson” (where he to have thrown Jerry Falwell into the mix he would have all but exhausted his source for such statements).
But not so fast, he is about to demonstrate that those, Judeo-Christians, who do not agree with Pat Robertson are hypocrites:

Needless to say, milder-mannered faith-heads are falling over themselves to disown Pat Robertson, just as they disowned those other pastors, evangelists, missionaries and mullahs at the time of the earlier disasters.
What hypocrisy.

At this point; note that you are dammed if you agree with Robertson and dammed if you do not.
Richard Dawkins asserts that Pat Robertson, “stands squarely in the Christian tradition” and those who disagree with him, “are denying the centrepiece of their own theology. It is the obnoxious Pat Robertson who is the true Christian here.”

But why is this? Because via Noah’s flood God was “systematically drowning the entire world, animal as well as human, as punishment for ‘sin’” and likewise with Sodom and Gomorrah thus, he notes,

Dear modern, enlightened, theologically sophisticated Christian, your entire religion is founded on an obsession with 'sin', with punishment and with atonement.

And Richard Dawkins’ is obsessed with getting rid of sin by claiming that there is no such thing and by promulgating the atheist consoling delusion of lack of ultimate accountability and the delusion of absolute autonomy.


Now, he asks, “Where do you find the effrontery to condemn Pat Robertson” when, after all, “the President of one theological seminary” wrote,
The earthquake in Haiti, like every other earthly disaster, reminds us that creation groans under the weight of sin and the judgment of God. This is true for every cell in our bodies, even as it is for the crust of the earth at every point on the globe.

Committing an expandio ad absurdum he implies that the Bible asserts that every natural disaster and disease is demonic in nature—this is a common misconception.

Richard Dawkins concludes by proposing a Bible study,
Pat Robertson may spout evil nonsense, but he is a mere amateur at that game. Just read your own Bible. Pat Robertson is true to it. But you?...your entire theology is one long celebration of suffering.

Note that, actually, his own Darwinian worldview is one long celebration of suffering as it is through suffering/struggling to survive as the fittest that evolution occurs which is why Sam Harris argues that rape played a beneficial evolutionary role.
Charles Darwin asserted races are preserved via the struggle for life, “Man, like every other animal, has no doubt advanced to his present high condition through a struggle…he must remain subject to a severe struggle. Otherwise he would soon sink into indolence, and the more highly-gifted men would not be more successful in the battle of life than the less gifted.”[3]
Edward Grant Conklin wrote, “the lesson of past evolution teaches that there can be no progress of any kind without struggle.”[4]
Sir Grafton Elliot Smith made reference to the “glorious unrest” in that, “While man was evolved amidst the strife with adverse conditions, the ancestors of the Gorilla and Chimpanzee gave up the struggle for mental supremacy because they were satisfied with their circumstances.”[5]
Misia Landau noted, “Darwinian narratives, which, owing to their emphasis on natural selection, are often cast in terms of transformation through struggle.”[6]
Richard Dawkins succinctly wrote, “In nature, the usual selecting agent is direct, stark and simple. It is the grim reaper.”[7]

Now, the basic point is that since Judeo-Christian theology asserts that creation has fallen into entropy due to, beginning with, Adam’s rebellion against God, Adam’s sin, then every tragedy can be ultimately traced back to Adam’s sin. Thus, we all suffer because of Adam and Pat Robertson is correct is asserting that it was sin, “a pact with the Devil,” that caused the earthquake.

Firstly, let us note that indeed, the Bible paint a picture of the ultimate global village—we are all connected, all part of one family, all brothers and sisters, all created and love by God and also rebellious against God.
Yet, the Bible does not affirm that every natural disaster and disease is demonic, or sin related, in nature rather. Rather, it implies that God created the material realm and that the material realm functions according to material cause followed by material effect—this, by the way, is what makes science possible. While there are rare instances when certain un-natural disasters and diseases-like symptoms are demonic in nature, or sin related, it describes natural disasters as natural disasters and treats physical disease as physical disease (consider, for example, the medically regimented description of dealing with leprosy in Leviticus ch. 13 and 14).

Now, who is correct about the biblical worldview? Richard Dawkins, Pat Robertson or Jesus?
Jesus stated,
Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices.
Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish” (Luke 13: 1-5).


This may not be of any comfort to adherents of the Dawkinsian School of Dogmatheistic Theology. Yet, the point is that Dawkins claimed to have drawn a logical conclusion via the Bible to hypocrisy in disagreeing with Pat Robertson due to the Bible’s affirmation of the fall into sin. Yet, the Bible does not draw this conclusion and so Dawkins is in error.

Moreover, Pat Robertson did not appeal to sin in general or the fall into sin. He reference an, un-evidenced, “pact with the Devil.” Thus, Richard Dawkins is further in error via another expandio ad absurdum.

To reiterate; the point is not whether it makes sense to you or not. The point is that Dawkins claimed to draw a logical conclusion from the Bible and yet, he contradicts the Bible’s contents, concepts and contexts.

[1] Richard Dawkins, “Haiti and the hypocrisy of Christian theology,” The Washington Post January 25, 2010
[2] Nick Pollard talks to Dr. Richard Dawkins (interviewed February 28th, 1995 published in Third Way in the April 1995 edition [vol. 18 no. 3])
[3] Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man and Selection in Relation to Sex (Princeton reprint of the 1st edition), p. 2:403
[4] Roger Lewin, Bones of Contention (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1987), p. 35 quoting “The Trend of Evolution,” in The Evolution of Man, published by Yale University Press, 1922, pp. 152-84
[5] Lewin, p. 35 quoting Essays on the Evolution of Man, published by Oxford University Press, 1924, p. 79
[6] Misia Landau, “Human Evolution as Narrative,” American Scientist, 72:262-268, 1984
[7] Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker—Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without Design (New York: W.W. Norton & Co., 1986), p. 62

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1/27/10

The Bible Among the Myths

The Bible Among the Myths is a book by John N. Oswalt.
Referencing this book provides an opportunity to link to various posts about comparisons between Jesus and various characters:

Jesus & Muhammad

Jesus & Buddha (this was a corroboration piece posted on AiD)

The following are provided by Marcus of the very informative blog What Had Happen′ Was…:
Jesus & Attis

Jesus & Dionysus

Jesus & Krishna

Jesus & Quetzalcoatl

Jesus & Xolotl

Jesus & Apollonius of Tyana

Jesus & Scipio Africanus

Jesus & Pythia-the Oracle at Delphi

Jesus & Titus Vespatian

Iliad & Bible

Also see:
Kyle Butt (you may recall that he debated Dan Barker), Reviewing Tom Harpur’s The Pagan Christ

Eric Lyons, Mythology and the Bible

JP Holding, The Christ Myth

Ronald Nash, Was the New Testament Influenced by Pagan Religions

Hank Hanegraaff, Is Jesus Myth? Answering More Prime Time Fallacies

Rational Christianity, Is the story of Jesus' life based on pagan myths?

Jonathan Sarfati, Was Christianity plagiarized from pagan myths?

Patrick Zukeran, Pagan Connection: Did Christianity Borrow From the Mystery Religions?





C.S. Lewis wrote:
A man who has spent his youth and manhood in the minute study of New Testament texts and of other people's studies of them, whose literary experience of those texts lacks any standard of comparison such as can only grow from a wide and deep and genial experience of literature in general, is, I should think, very likely to miss the obvious thing about them.
If he tells me that something in a Gospel is legend or romance, I want to know how many legends and romances he has read, how well his palate is trained in detecting them by the flavour; not how many years he has spend on that Gospel…I have been reading poems, romances, vision-literature, legends, myths all my life. I know what they are like. I know that not one of them is like this…[1]

The following is from Amazon.com
Product Description
The Bible Among the Myths is a sometimes controversial, always engaging corrective to a growing rejection in Western society of the revelation found within the Old Testament regarding a transcendent God who breaks into time and space and reveals himself in and through human activity.

From the Back Cover
Sixty years ago, most biblical scholars maintained that Israel’s religion was unique—that it stood in marked contrast to the faiths of its ancient Near Eastern neighbors. Nowadays, it is widely argued that Israel’s religion mirrors that of other West Semitic societies. What accounts for this radical change, and what are its implications for our understanding of the Old Testament?
Dr. John N. Oswalt says the root of this new attitude lies in Western society’s hostility to the idea of revelation, which presupposes a reality that transcends the world of the senses, asserting the existence of a realm humans cannot control. While not advocating a “the Bible says it, and I believe it, and that settles it” point of view, Oswalt asserts convincingly that while other ancient literatures all see reality in essentially the same terms, the Bible differs radically on all the main points.
The Bible Among the Myths supplies a necessary corrective to those who reject the Old Testament’s testimony about a transcendent God who breaks into time and space and reveals himself in and through human activity.

About the Author
Dr. John N. Oswalt (PhD, Brandeis University) is Visiting Distinguished Professor of Old Testament at Asbury Theological Seminary in Wilmore, Kentucky. He is the author of numerous articles and several books, including the two-volume commentary on Isaiah in the New International Commentary on the Old Testament series and Called to be Holy: A Biblical Perspective.


[1] C.S. Lewis, “Originally entitled 'Modern Theology and Biblical Criticism', Lewis read this essay at Westcott House, Cambridge, on 11 May 1959. Published under that title in Christian Reflections (1981), it is now in Fern-seed and Elephants (1998).”—from Orthodox Web


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1/26/10

Another Atheist Gives Up the Ghost – On the Atheism Just Is Approach

It appears as if as atheists increasingly, and refreshingly, get tire of the New Atheism prompted definition of atheism as a “lack of belief in god(s)” and come right out and affirm a positive affirmation of God’s non-existence they instantly grow tire of being asked that troublesome question, “Where is your evidence? Please prove it.”

I ran across one of very many promulgations of the Freedom From Religion Foundation’s positive atheism bus ads/billboards that read:
Atheist ads target valley residents at Christmas
Las Vegas, NV - Atheism has launched a Christmas ad campaign and it’s raising eyebrows
Clear Channel owns the billboards and removed that Santa version after just a few days, citing too many complaints. But two other ads, ’Reason’s Greetings’ and ‘Heathen’s Greetings,’ have been allowed to stay.
‘Yes Virginia… there is no God’ billboard

I posted a comment stating:
How long will the FFRF go on positively affirming God’s non-existence without evidence?
Is this not what they condemn as “faith”?
They are doing it this year and they did it last year:
http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2008/12/dan-barker-and-neo-pagan-atheism.html

The response was:
And.. we will continue to speak out, becoming more publicly and more vehemently opposed to this ridiculous delusion that serves only to erode rational thought, personal responsibility and the peace and security of all citizens. A more correct term is anti-theist. There is no theism involved. There is no faith involved. There was no historical figure named Jesus nor is there an invisible man living in the sky. This does not require faith to understand, only rational thought.

Agreeing (to some extent) I wrote:
Let us pray that atheists will continue speaking out as loudly and often as possible as nothing discredits atheism like having atheists express themselves.
Gone are the days of shying away from claiming that God does not exist because that would require proof. Now it is simply left to “I believe that God does not exist, so it must be true.”
Keep up the good work of self-refuting atheism.

More affirmation of just believe it-ism came about:
You are right, but for the wrong reasons. As you say ” Gone are the days of shying away from claiming that God does not exist”. This is true. The tyranny of the irrational can no longer be tolerated. The burden of proof rests with those making the claim. There is no more proof for the existence of a god than there is that I am the reincarnation of Mahandas Gandhi. I cannot prove it and you cannot disprove it. It’s a silly assertion with an easy and hollow defense designed to confuse the gullible. The fact that something is so unrealistic that it defies proof, both positive and negative, serves only to prove that it is unrealistic.

So I noted:
Pardon my delay as the holy days kept me happily busy and this new year is doing likewise.Interesting to learn that the neo-atheist position is that atheism is excluded from the real of making an argument in its favor.I suppose that for evidence I would begin considering this parsed essay which considers the Invisible Pink Unicorns, the Flying Spaghetti Monster and God.http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/05/on-flying-spaghetti-monster-invisible.html

Well, that was the end of it and a good example of the approach that asserts the “logic” that if you presuppose positive atheism then positive atheism must be true.


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1/25/10

Audio Bibles for Haiti and Atheist Hypocrisy

Am I understanding this correctly?

For the past few years atheists worldwide have literally wasted enormous amounts of money during times of recession, war and poverty not in helping anyone in any material need but in order to purchase bus ads and billboards attempting to demonstrated just how clever they consider themselves to be; and now they want to become the charity police—please!

Futher dissection of this particular atheist hypocrisy here.


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The Mad Pagan Skeptic, part 3

We now conclude our tripartite consideration of the mad Pagan skeptic having already considered Friedrich Nietzsche’s virtual prophecy about what would come about due to the death of God.
We also considered a biblical statement about humanity’s natural knowledge of God and our purposeful negation of such knowledge.
Now we will consider to what atheism has come as they seek to find meaning in a meaningless universe and seek to prop up their favored ideas upon contradictions of their own making.

This essay will be parsed as follows:
1) An Exposition of The Parable of the Mad Man
2) Neo Pagan Atheism
3) The Modern Skeptic

The Modern Skeptic
In a chapter of his book “Orthodoxy” entitled “The Suicide of Thought” G. K. Chesterton’s incomparable wit and quaint British style produces a very telling critique of secularism’s fallacious worldview:

But the new rebel is a Sceptic, and will not entirely trust anything.
He has no loyalty; therefore he can never be really a revolutionist. And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in his way when he wants to denounce anything. For all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it.
Thus he writes one book complaining that imperial oppression insults the purity of women, and then he writes another book (about the sex problem) in which he insults it himself. He curses the Sultan because Christian girls lose their virginity, and then curses Mrs. Grundy because they keep it.
As a politician, he will cry out that war is a waste of life, and then, as a philosopher, that all life is waste of time.
A Russian pessimist will denounce a policeman for killing a peasant, and then prove by the highest philosophical principles that the peasant ought to have killed himself.
A man denounces marriage as a lie, and then denounces aristocratic profligates for treating it as a lie.
He calls a flag a bauble, and then blames the oppressors of Poland or Ireland because they take away that bauble.
The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts.
In short, the modern revolutionist, being an infinite sceptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines.
In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men.
Therefore the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt.
By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything.

This was written in 1908 AD—indeed, there is nothing new under the Sun.




Let us parse this statement:

But the new rebel is a Sceptic, and will not entirely trust anything.
Of course, there is true and honest skepticism such as that which is enjoined in the Bible.[1] Yet, the skeptic for skepticism’s sake, the septic skeptic, the pseudo-skeptic is basically a contrarian who merely seeks to constantly find new reasons, or excuses, for their unbelief.

As for not entirely trusting anything; if these were consistent in their thinking they would not trust anything. Take, for example, those who claim to base their worldviews strictly upon reason but who cannot reason to reason. Or those who claim that nature is all that there is even though nature cannot explain nature. Or rely on science even though science is not, au fond, about facts but about the best explanation we have thus far (and these within the narrow parameters in which science functions). Thus, skeptics cannot entirely trust anything upon which they claim to premise their skepticism.

He has no loyalty; therefore he can never be really a revolutionist. And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in his way when he wants to denounce anything. For all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it.
My observation here would repeat some of the above. Therefore, let us focus on the fact that “all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind.” When an atheist rages against God’s ethical law they are basing their rage upon something else. Arguments from outrage, certainly; but they think that their outrage is justified by appealing to—what? Some appeal to their very own personal opinions, some to moral hardwiring via evolution, etc.

But does the atheist condemn something because it is evil or it is evil because the atheist condemns it? Ultimately, atheism discredits condemnation and condemnation discredits atheism. Atheism discredits condemnation because all atheistic condemnation is based upon impotent personal preferences and thus carry no transcendent weight nor justice. Condemnation discredits atheism because it demonstrates that the atheist is appealing to the transcendent.

As the one time atheist C. S. Lewis sated,
My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust.
But how had I got this idea of just and unjust?
A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line.
What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?[2]


Thus he writes one book complaining that imperial oppression insults the purity of women, and then he writes another book (about the sex problem) in which he insults it himself. He curses the Sultan because Christian girls lose their virginity, and then curses Mrs. Grundy because they keep it.
Atheists often rage against God’s ethical system because it interferes with their favorite activities (as is true for us all). Yet, this quandary is much like that of everyone who argues in favor of same sex marriage and against the one man and one woman only view: they too are absolutely opposed to certain forms of marriage as is any, even mildly rational, person. Thus, the atheist condemns, ex nihilo, Judeo-Christian disapproval of homosexuality while, at the same time, baselessly condemning certain other forms of sexuality. Thus, first they condemn Christian standards of sexual purity and then they condemn Christians who fail to live up to those standards.

As a politician, he will cry out that war is a waste of life, and then, as a philosopher, that all life is waste of time.
This is because not matter how much you enjoy sunsets, puppies, a good book or feeding the hungry; in the end it is as Dan Barker puts it, “There is no moral interpreter in the cosmos, nothing cares and nobody cares...what happens to me or a piece of broccoli, it won’t [matter]. The Sun is going to explode, we’re all gonna be gone. No one’s gonna care.”

A Russian pessimist will denounce a policeman for killing a peasant, and then prove by the highest philosophical principles that the peasant ought to have killed himself.
Oh, I miss the days of the good old fashioned atheist who were consistent in their thoughts, drew them to their logical conclusions and lived (and died) accordingly. They knew that enjoying sunsets, puppies, a good book or even feeding the hungry were nothing in view of the reality of the cosmic insignificance of humanity and everything; what is the point of polishing the brass on a sinking ship?

A man denounces marriage as a lie, and then denounces aristocratic profligates for treating it as a lie.
The atheist sees marriage as some vestigial Darwinian leftover from the reproduction activities of our ancestors up until such a time as you take an interest in their spouse. Yet, even at this point they will scientifically appeal to your concern for reproducing your DNA, which may be exactly what you wanted to do with their spouse.
After all, what is love but a bio-chemical reaction that mutated and was naturally selected for its ability to keep two breeders together? In fact, not surprisingly, Richard Dawkins reduces love to a “manifestation of brain stuff.”

He calls a flag a bauble, and then blames the oppressors of Poland or Ireland because they take away that bauble.
A bauble is something that is small and decorative but of little real value and or a mock scepter of office carried by a court jester. In general, that which is seen as a mere trinket takes on new importance when it is threatened.

The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts.
As Richard Dawkins stated it, “We are not, then, merely like apes or descended from apes; we are apes.”[3] Charles Darwin wrote, “In a series of forms graduating insensibly from some ape-like creature to man as he now exists, it would be impossible to fix on any definite point when the term ‘man’ ought to be used.”[4]

In short, the modern revolutionist, being an infinite sceptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines. In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men.
This reminded me of the fact that atheists complain that God does not do anything about evil but then also complain when they find out what God will ultimately do about evil. They condemn Judeo-Christian ethics for dictating certain actions and then condemn the actions of those with whom they disagree with no foundation except for personal preferences.

Therefore the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt. By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything.
Ultimately, in a godless universe in which bio-organisms who think too much of themselves as they hurdle though space on a pale blue dot in the universe’s backwaters nothing ultimately matters at all as absolutely everything—from your thoughts and feeling, friends and family to the universe itself—is temporary, here one day gone the next: carpe despero.

To review: we considered Friedrich Nietzsche’s prediction that the death of God would lead to secular spirituality and atheistic self-deification. We noted a biblical statement about how the evidence of God’s existence is accessible to those who are seeking truth and not merely attempting to force reality to fit their a priori held worldview. Lastly, noted that atheism ends us in self contradiction as they move from one moment to the next condemning here, excusing there in a baseless dance of personal preferences.


[1] “‘Come now, let us reason together,’ says the LORD” (Isaiah 1:18), in the New Testament the Bereans are considered more noble (or more “fair minded”) for double checking everything that Paul told them (Acts 17:11), Thomas asked for the evidence which the others had seen and had merely retold to him (John 20:24-30), Jesus stated, “Love the Lord your God with all your…mind. This is the first and greatest commandment” (Matthew 22:36-38), etc., etc., etc.
[2] Mere Christianity, Part 2, “What Christians Believe,” ch. 6, “The Rival Conceptions Of God”
[3] Richard Dawkins, writing in the Late City Final Edition (4-9-89)
[4] Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex, p. 180


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1/24/10

Coelacanth - From Evidence to Tall Tale (or is it tall “tail”?)

What do you do when 1) your theory calls for gradual change from fish to human over an expanse of time, 2) then you find some nice fish fossils to which you can point, 3) then you point to modern day humans, 4) then you tell a nice impressive sounding story full of fancy book learnin′ words about how one changed into the other but then, 5) you find that the fish is still alive, well and unchanged?

Well, if you are a Darwinist or the “Evolutionary Theodicy” sort you do that which your theory is practically based upon; you disregard the evidence and concoct yet another tall tale to fill the gaps in your previous tall tale. And you always remember that when evidence contradicts theory you do not augment the theory in order to accommodate the evidence rather, you manipulate the evidence so that it will fit the theory.




The story of the coelacanth is fascinating for various reasons, for our purposes the fascination is in noting how the evidence implies one story and the Darwinist infers quite another.

Fossils of the fish coelacanth are said to date as far back as 400,000,000 years ago and they were thought to have gone extinct circa 60,000,000 years ago. This opened the door for the telling of tall tales about how the coelacanth decided to get out of the water and trot about on land. Oh, the stories that were told; we can tell from the fins that…and became legs because…anatomy this, evolution that, and bada bing—human being.

What a time they had; chin stockingly pontificating as they interpreted evidence based on bias schools of thought and adherence to theory (which I evidenced in the essay Scientific Cenobites). But then the show was over and reality swam past them as in 1938 AD South African fishermen made Marjorie Courtenay Latimer, the curator of a museum in East London (northeast of Cape Town, South Africa), aware of the living fish—the Gombessa, as they knew it.




But the party was not over. While many biologists express consternation at the upsetting of their theories, a good Darwinist never lets those troubling little facts get in the way of a good theory. For example, recall that the fact that human embryos have gill slits proved that ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. Yet, when it was proved that human embryos do not have gill slits this still proved that ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny because human embryos used to have gill slits and have now evolved (as recently as a couple of year ago an atheist Darwinist who had actually studied anatomy told me that human embryos have gill slits—relying on a century and half old hoax anyone?).

Thus, when the living fish toppled the dead theory the fish was prepared with a twist of lemon and the theory was propped back up in the form of a red herring. What comes forth from this strange sort of weird science is that there are two stories of the coelacanth: the actual story told by the evidence itself and the story told regardless of evidence which is meant to function as smoke and mirrors which call attention away from the story told by the evidence—smoked coelacanth, yummy.


The evidence presents a fish which has not changed in 60,000,000 years (with the possible exception of size, etc.). The theory remains all but unchanged; this fish decided to go on walkabout. But how is the gap filled between the evidence of an unchanged and the human who examines the fish from which it supposedly evolved? By appealing to the mythical environmental pressures which caused part of the fish population to remain unchanged for 60,000,000 years and part to change into human beings who eat them (actually, I understand that they are too oily to be good eat′ns).




I encountered an interesting and vacuous statement which sought to take creationists to task at dinofish.com:

Seemingly immune to the pressures of natural selection, the coelacanth changed little (except in size and possibly in habitat) over the eons. Creationists have used this as evidence against the theory of Evolution, but most observers see the coelacanth as a startling, and loveable (Old Four Legs) messenger from the past.
No joke, this was the entirety of their refutation. Note the way that they fill the gap in that it just so happens that the coelacanth was “Seemingly immune to the pressures of natural selection.” What do we learn about natural selection? It is the driving force behind evolution except when it is not because some creatures are immune.

Dinofish.com also stated,
Two back, or dorsal, fins and one protruding beneath the nape of the tail are complimented by paired lobed pectoral and pelvic fins. These contain in their trunks bones mimicking those of Eusthenopteron which later developed into arms and legs. While coelacanths have not been observed to "walk" on the bottom, their pectoral and pelvic fins can be seen as "pre-adaptations" to land locomotion. Used under water their action maintains stability and balance. But in their cousin Eusthenopteron, the same action became four-legged land walking.
While the living coelacanths retain many ancient features they have also, contrary to their public image, done some evolving along the way. Live bearing, for example, would seem to be a modern feature.

So, they “changed little…over the eons” and have also “done some evolving along the way.” Incidentally, they are mistaken about “Live bearing” being “a modern feature” as it is claimed that in fish this process dates from the Carboniferous period of 360,000,000-290,000,000 years ago.

You will note that part of the evidence for the coelacanth becoming a land dweller is that its cousin became a land dweller; even though eusthenopteron is a fish of the open sea.

Hans Fricke, an ethologist with the Max-Planck Institute, wrote of the coelacanth’s advanced electric field detection capabilities as well as its lack of walking un-abilities:
they may also be able to locate prey by detecting changes in the electric field around themit is intriguing that this fish may hone in on prey by detecting changes in the weak electric field the prey produces…

Our films settled another question that has intrigued scientists: whether the coelacanth can walk on its lobed fins. Though we observed several individuals resting with their fins braced against the sea bottom, we never saw any of them walk, and it appears the fish is unable to do so…

I confess I'm sorry we never saw a coelacanth walk on its fins. Professor Smith himself nicknamed the coelacanth Old Fourlegs in the belief that the creature actually did walk upon the seafloor like a seal on its flippers. Alas, that does not seem to be the case.[1]


When you see early taxidermic reconstructions of the coelacanth you can tell just how desperate the scientists were to, quite literally, bend the evidence in the favor of their theory as the coelacanth’s legs were bent downwards in order to make it seem as if the poor little guy was read to walk. This is quite evidence from the “Old Four Legs” book cover as well:


Indeed, there is quite a difference between manipulating a dead fish or skeleton to do as you please like so many marionettes on the one hand and observing the living fish in its environment doing as it will. Fricke notes,
For all their excellent work in the past, the scientists who preceded us in the study of coelacanths were severely hampered by the lack of a submersible. They could only examine dead or dying specimens brought up by Comoran fishermen.

Alas, as noted by Peter L. Forey
Fifty years ago this week [the week of Dec. 1988], Latimeria chalumnae was discovered, the only living representative of the otherwise extinct coelacanth fishes. Half a century of research shows it is not the hoped for missing link between fish and land vertebrates.[2]

Some years ago PBS aired a “documentary” retelling the story of the Coelacanth. You could literally take the documentary and re-edit it into two documentaries: one about the evidence for the unchanged fish which obviously did not turn into land walkers, much less human beings and the other which would be the evolutionary mythology about how, despite the evidence, it did so.

Lastly, I wanted to note that I learned that Jacques Millot had researched the coelacanth and checked the search engine at Scientific American for his article of 1955 AD simply titled, “The Coelacanth.” Having no hits searching various ways I finally typed “Jacques Millot” and got this result:
Your search for ""Jacques Millot"" resulted in 0 documents.
Did you mean "hotcakes Mildest"?

No, I did not—no, I did not.

[1] Hans Fricke, Coelacanths, The Fish That Time Forgot – first published in National Geographic, June 1988
[2] Peter L. Forey, “Golden jubilee for the coelacanth Latimeria chalumnae,” Nature, 336, 727-732 (29 December 1988)


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1/23/10

The Mad Pagan Skeptic, part 2

We now continue our tripartite consideration of the mad Pagan skeptic, having already considered Friedrich Nietzsche’s virtual prophecy about what would come about due to the death of God.
We will now consider a biblical statement about humanity’s natural knowledge of God and our purposeful negation of such knowledge.
And lastly, we will consider to what atheism has come as they seek to find meaning in a meaningless universe and seek to prop up their favored ideas upon contradictions of their own making.

This essay will be parsed as follows:
1) An Exposition of The Parable of the Mad Man
2) Neo Pagan Atheism
3) The Modern Skeptic

Neo Pagan Atheism
Gleaning from Romans 1:18-28 we see that the Bible makes the following declaration:
…men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because the thing which may be known of God is clearly revealed within them, for God revealed it to them.
For the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being realized by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse.
Because, knowing God, they did not glorify Him as God, neither were thankful.
But they became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness…
For they changed the truth of God into a lie…
they did not think fit to have God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind.

Let us parse this statement:

men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because the thing which may be known of God is clearly revealed within them, for God revealed it to them. For the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being realized by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse.
I firstly, wanted to note that “the thing which may be known of God is clearly revealed within them” may be understood, at least on one level, is that we humans are not animals; even those who believe that we are animals admit the obvious—that we are very, very different from the animals, or from other animals. Thus, humans have always discerned the imago dei—that humans as being made in the image of God.
More directly, God revealed “the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world” as they are “realized by the things that are made.” We often recognize invisible things by their affects. For example, wind is invisible but we see its affect as trees sway, oxygen is invisible but we see its affect as it burns.
I recall a debate engaged upon by Philip Johnson who stated that the evidence for design is all around us. At this point the audience, predictably, laughed at him at which point he quoted Richard Dawkins and Francis Crick who have written:
Dawkins, “Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose” (The Blind Watchmaker, p. 1).

Crick, “Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was not designed, but rather evolved” (What Mad Pursuit, p.138).

The evidence is clear to behold but they replace the logical conclusion of design by concocting stories about how thing may have, could have (or, should have?) happened in the form of Victorian Era tall tales. As long as they can tell naturalistic stories about time, chance and matter coming together in unknown and unobserved ways to look like design they are, as Dawkins puts it, “intellectually satisfied atheist[s].”
Furthermore, consider what happens when they are confronted by the scientific evidence of a universe fine tuned for life: they imagine unknown and unobserved oscillations and a multiverse in order to deny the evidence set before them—if they can imagine it, that is good enough.
This is why they are said to “suppress the truth in unrighteousness” and thus, “be without excuse”—they know better but talk themselves out of conclusions which are inconvenient to their particular, and peculiar, worldviews.

Because, knowing God, they did not glorify Him as God, neither were thankful.
Knowing that God is behind creation they ignored Him and, as is typical of humanity, did not thank God but take pride in themselves as they think that they have pulled themselves up by their very own boot-straps. The problem with the self made person is that they worship their creator.

But they became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Acceptance of the recognition of divine design lead to imagining scenarios whereby the universe just pops into existence uncaused by nothing and for nothing, life coming from non-life—all without evidence—etc. “Scientific” literature has become saturated with tall tales which, no matter how nonsensical or absurd, are concocted, accepted and promulgated due to adherence to atheism in the guise of Darwinism or the insistence that “science” is not allowed to come to anything but materialistic conclusions. Think about it: science only deals with the material, only considers the material, only observes the material and, big surprise, only concludes the material. It is a set up whereby one stares into one little corner of reality, the material aspect, then one sees only the material, then one comes to material conclusions and then one demands that the material is all that there is—yet, this is because the refuse to turn around from that little corner and behold the splendor of creations various facets.

Note the statement of Prof. Richard Lewontin (whose whole statement is very worth reading):
Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.
It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.
Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door. The eminent Kant scholar Lewis Beck used to say that anyone who could believe in God could believe in anything. To appeal to an omnipotent deity is to allow that at any moment the regularities of nature may be ruptured, that miracles may happen.

Professing to be wise, they became fools and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
The self profession of being wiser than thou is basically a requirement of atheism. It is, in fact, one of their consoling delusions. The atheist is the most erudite amongst us and has based their atheism upon the very best information to date on every topic upon which issues of atheism vs. theism touch (at least this is the talking point which is not the whole story). This is why, for example, they come to the brilliant conclusions that:
It is ignorant and superstitious to believe that God made everything out of nothing.
It is rational and scientific to believe that nothing made everything out of nothing.

It is ignorant and superstitious to believe that God is eternal.
It is rational and scientific to believe that matter is eternal.

God is an effect and must have had a cause.
Matter is the uncaused first cause.

If God made everything, then who made God?
Matter made everything and nothing made matter.

Makes one wonder.

As for “imaginations”; note the words of Prof. Richard Dawkins as he is asked to provide his “most persuasive” argument for his particular Darwinian/Dawkinsian views:
Um, there’s got to be a series of advantages all the way in the feather. If you can’t think of one then that’s your problem, not natural selection’s problem. Natural selection, um, well, I suppose that is a sort of matter of faith on my, on my part since the theory is so coherent and so powerful.[1]

Thus, “their foolish heart was darkened” as they openly display their vain imaginations which are readily discerned as mere excuses for rejecting God.

Changing “the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things” is surely a reference to literal idolatry. Yet, such a change is just as prevalent in atheism not via the literal carving and worshiping of images of man, animals and insects but via neo-Pagan-atheism as atheists push the concept of replacing awe in God with awe in nature (I evidence this via quotations here also see here and here).

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness…For they changed the truth of God into a lie…they did not think fit to have God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind
While the texts gets into particular action which followed from the choice to reject God and God allowing them to do so, or respecting their freewill choice, let us focus on the fact that they proceeded to “changed the truth of God into a lie” and “did not think fit to have God in their knowledge” which is why “God gave them over to a reprobate mind.”
This is the mind from which they continue to justify their rejection of God. The more that one wants to reject God the more justification they will find for it as they reach ever closer to what they really want: to be rid of God forever. Succinctly stated; this is, at least part of, the reason that God does not part the universe, appear in the sky and say, “Shalom! I am God and you are not” as this would, essentially, rob us of the freewill to seek and find or reject and feel justified in doing so.

[1] The Atheism Tapes, Part 4: Richard Dawkins and Jonathan Miller

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1/22/10

Yet Again, the Most Intelligent, Well Informed and Vociferous Atheist in the World Cower from Debate

Let us simply state, “Stick a fork in them, for they are done.” This is the very last straw of the very many straws that they have been offered so as to build even a little bail of respectability.
The year 2010 AD will see the gathering of the “Global Atheist Convention” in Melbourne, Australia. This meeting of the best, the brightest and those who abscond from debate is titled, “The Rise of Atheism” and billed as the “biggest ever atheist event in Australia’s history.”


It appears that it should be titled “The Rise of Atheism via closing minds, putting on airs of arrogant superiority and selectively absconding from debate.” This is because Creation Ministries International-Australia offered to debate the world’s leading atheist/evolutionists while they conveniently gathered down under.

CMI-A (who published a pretty nice essay on atheism, if I do say so myself) originally pitched the offer to debate to the event organizers, the Atheist Foundation of Australia, and subsequently to individual headliners such as Richard Dawkins and PZ Myers. With one voice, though employed different excuses, they have each turned down the opportunity to defend their views even on territory saturated by their adherents.

I have proven, as if any proof was required, that Richard Dawkins, supposed champion of atheism, reason and science, and other likewise personages claim, on the surface, to flatly refuse to debate “creationists” (a term in which they place anyone from YECists to Intelligent Design theorists and any one of those people) but since they then, on rare occasion, do debate some of them; it is clear that they are picking and choosing what they consider to be easy targets while absconding from defending their views in any way that is not behind their keyboards or lecture to friendly audiences (for PZ Myers see here for Richard Dawkins see: Dawkins’ Debate Delusion, Will Richard Dawkins Debate Stephen Meyer? and Is Richard Dawkins Still Alive?).



Now they are coming together in force to promote The Rise of Atheism and while proving that atheists are rising, in numbers, their champions are all but flaccid. Worse yet, the more that their champions refuse to debate and tackle anything but straw-men and straw-gods the more their adherents cheer them on and excuse their every cowardly act. This is because, since atheism is, au fond, rejection of God atheism is, au fond, an emotional position.

CMI-A’s proposal was, in part, offered to the Atheist Foundation of Australia as follows:
CMI-Australia in particular became convinced that with the world’s top atheists boastfully proclaiming their faith and its alleged “intellectual foundations” (evolutionary science) in Australia, we had a duty to make a public stand in response…

Since this is about as public an anti-God pretension as there could be, and one based on a claim to rational argument, we sent an open letter of invitation/challenge to the convention organisers. This was for a public creation-evolution debate, offering for it to be formally videotaped with each side freely able to distribute it, regardless of the outcome. They were to be permitted to have a panel of their choice of atheists (preferably including Dawkins) formally debate the issue—of whether the evidence best supports creation or evolution—against our choice of CMI staff scientists…

(which position on origins, yours or ours, is better supported by the available evidence?). The exact wording can be finetuned between us, but the above should adequately clarify the nature of the subject matter with little room for misunderstanding…

You have the chance (if your arguments really do stand up, as they are continually promoted) to be able to finally demolish some of the world’s most prominent proponents of scientific creationism in one sitting, and in public…Dr Dawkins and others have no difficulty countering “strawman” arguments of their own making…

As it turns out:
We got a rejection back the same day—which didn’t surprise us, except for possibly the speed. It’s easy for popular anticreationist books to distort and misrepresent the science involved in proper creationist claims made by scientifically trained and competent people, and also to set up strawmen to “demolish” in front of an unsuspecting audience.
But if it wasn’t obvious before, it is clear now, that it was never going to be palatable to such anti-creation promoters to be held accountable in public for their misrepresentations, strawmen (and sometimes blatant deceptions). Nevertheless, we think it was important to try, if only to have taken a stand so that it might in some way help highlight the bankruptcy of these claims of “intellectual superiority”…

The organisers even refused to pass the invitation on to the presenters. When we asked again, we were told that we could contact PZ Myers and Dawkins on their respective websites directly by email. We did this, though we were not surprised that there was no takeup by either of this offer…


An Atheist Foundation of Australia representative stated, in part,
We expect Richard Dawkins and other credible scientists would consider debating a position that is supported by an equal amount of evidence in accredited scientific literature as supports evolution.

Well, they expected too much. CMI-A wanted to specifically debate the evidence that supports evolution but the best that atheism/evolution has to offer say, “Nay!”

Since the Atheist Foundation of Australia refused to even pass along the debate challenge to any of speakers CMI-A could not help but logically conclude that they were doing so in order to:
a) prevent the presenters from finding out about the invitation or (perish the thought) b) seeming to do so, in order to provide a way for presenters to be able to position themselves as if they knew nothing of it, or at least not in time (when asked the inevitable question as to why they would refuse such a golden opportunity).

CMI-A states:
Dawkins himself, while in Australia in March 2010, will also be holding a public lecture in Brisbane, home of CMI-Australia. The venue bills him as one who, via his latest book The Greatest Show on Earth, “comprehensively rebuts the creationists by pulling together the incontrovertible evidence for evolution.”…
CMI will, prior to Dawkins’ arrival, be releasing a new book by Dr Jonathan Sarfati comprehensively rebutting the best that Dawkins could come up with on evolution, the intellectual foundation stone of his atheism…

The book will be titled, The Greatest Hoax on Earth? Refuting Dawkins on evolution (a response to Richard Dawkins’ The Greatest Show on Earth: the evidence for evolution).

Since the assiduous absconders refuse to debate, CMI-A will be putting on their own multi-session event with an optional “early bird” screening of our Darwin documentary The Voyage That Shook the World (about which I posted here):

Sunday March 14, 2010, 2 pm to 6.30 pm (bonus early bird Darwin documentary 1 pm)
Life Ministry Centre (Old Melbourne Rd, Chirnside Park)
Free admission (voluntary donation only)

So, go down under and watch the fireworks!

My baby ate a Dingo!


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1/21/10

The Mad Pagan Skeptic, part 1

Atheism is Dead will now begin a tripartite consideration of the mad Pagan skeptic whereby we will consider Friedrich Nietzsche’s virtual prophecy about what would come about due to the death of God.
We will also consider a biblical statement about humanity’s natural knowledge of God and our purposeful negation of such knowledge.
Lastly, we will consider to what atheism has come as they seek to find meaning in a meaningless universe and seek to prop up their favored ideas upon contradictions of their own making.

This essay will be parsed as follows:
1) An Exposition of The Parable of the Mad Man
2) Neo Pagan Atheism
3) The Modern Skeptic

An Exposition of The Parable of the Mad Man
Let us consider “Parable of the Madman.” If you are looking in your Bible’s index for the The Parable of the Mad Man you are looking in the wrong place. This parable was penned by the atheist Friedrich Nietzsche in 1882 AD. Let us consider the entire text of the parable:



Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: “I seek God! I seek God!”
As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? Asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? Asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? Immigrated? Thus they yelled and laughed.

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. “Whither is God?” he cried; “I will tell you. We have killed him, you and I. All of us are his murderers.

But how did we do this?
How could we drink up the sea?
Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon?
What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun?
Whither is it moving now?
Whither are we moving?
Away from all suns?
Are we not plunging continually?
Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions?
Is there still any up or down?
Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing?
Do we not feel the breath of empty space?
Has it not become colder?
Is not night continually closing in on us?
Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning?
Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God?
Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us?
What water is there for us to clean ourselves?
What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent?
Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us?
Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us, for the sake of this deed, he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto.

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. “I have come too early,” he said then; “my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars; and yet they have done it themselves.”

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: “What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?”

Let us now parse the parable and consider it in detail:
Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: “I seek God! I seek God!”
It is not stated why this person is described as a “madman”—except, perhaps, that he is mad enough to seek God.
Note that he “lit a lantern in the bright morning hours.” But why light a lamp when it is bright? Perhaps due to his being mad. Perhaps the brightness of the world is really darkness and he seeks to shed light; the true light of God.
He seeks God and indeed, God stated, “you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart” (Jeremiah 29:13).

As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? Asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? Asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? Immigrated? Thus they yelled and laughed.
This seems to be an allusion to Elijah who when confronting the prophets of Baal likewise mocked them due to the fact that Baal was not heeding their request for him to show up, “Cry aloud, for he is a god; either he is meditating, or he is busy, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is sleeping and must be awakened” (1st Kings 18:27).

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. “Whither is God?” he cried; “I will tell you. We have killed him, you and I. All of us are his murderers.
The light is lit in the brightness, he cannot find God and is being mocked for his attempts to do so. Thus, God’s death, murder in fact, is proclaimed.

But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea?
This question and statement imply the accomplishment of an impossible task. Indeed, who could drink up the sea? No one. But then; who could murder God?

Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns?
This, and that which immediately follows, seems to imply the recognition that in a godless universe there is no direction, there is no meaning to which we are affixed (I distinguish between “meaning” and “purpose”)
The horizon distinguished between heaven and Earth, it is an absolute differentiation between one and another thing. Without God we are ultimately unchained and the universe has no reason to function as it does, fine tuned as it is, it is merely mass in motion, “Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving?”

Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions?
I wanted to pause at this statement as it reminded me of Peter’s statement, “we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love” (Ephesians 4:14-15).
As G. K. Chesterton stated it, “When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing—they believe in anything.”

Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us?
Here continues the view of a godless universe with no absolute direction. Also note what may be recognizable as the assured entropy death of humanity the universe and everything as we—living on Earth what the atheist Carl Sagan referred to a “pale blue dot”—are merely swirling through the infinite nothing of empty space which becomes colder and closes in on us as the universe dies—the heat death of the universe, the ultimate outcome of entropy the hopelessness of atheism—carpe despero.

Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning?
This seems to be why he lit the lantern in the brightness of morning as we attempt to keep lit that which is growing ever darker. This touches upon one of atheism’s consoling delusions: the delusion of subjective meaning in an objectively meaningless existence. We light our little flames and stare at them in wonderment while all around us cold darkness encroaches.

Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.
This is a famous occurrence of Nietzsche’s famous line, “God is Dead” to which Richard Dawkins recently alluded in stating, “God is not dead. He was never alive in the first place.” Next we see how the concept of God’s death leads to certain conclusions which are virtual prophecies of that which was to come in the 20th century; the most secular and bloodies century in human history.

How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
I have collected various statements by atheists who seek atheism spirituality which they practice in the form of nature worship as atheist-neo-Paganism. They also seek to establish a one world atheist religion (also see here for a specific example). Indeed, in the end, atheism is not about getting rid of God but about replacing a supernatural God with natural gods—the self-deification of individual atheists, or as I term it: iTheism.

There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us, for the sake of this deed, he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto.
With God dead and humanity drifting aloft in a dying universe the higher history which was to follow was the terror, unlike that which the world had ever known, of atheism based regimes which not only lost vast portions of their own populace during war but slaughtered them during times of “peace,” by the tens of millions, as they sought to reach their various goals of a godless society. Social Darwinism and eugenics played a part in this. For example, Australian Aborigines were shot, stuffed and displayed in museums as missing links.

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. “I have come too early,” he said then; “my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars; and yet they have done it themselves.”
Considering already “many of those who did not believe in God were standing around” and mocked him; the actual death of God is not that which was too early to declare but rather, that which would follow was to come as atheism gained wide acceptance. It would require time for atheists to incorporate the death of God into their worldviews to the point that they would variously formulate concepts of how humanity came to be, how to corral humans as the animals that they are, how to be simply rid of undesirables like so much waste, etc.

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: “What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?”
A “requiem” is basically a non-biblical ritual whereby prayers are offered for the dead and “aeternam deo” means eternal God. Thus, the madman offered prayers (to whom?) for the death of the (apparently not) eternal God. The historical fact of the matter is that according to Friedrich Nietzsche’s rightful judgment it was not atheists who had murdered God, at least not directly, but it was liberal Christianity which in his time and place had basically the ritualistic trappings of theism but due to accepting the fallacious claims of “higher” criticism, etc. had all but abandoned the Bible and traditional Christian doctrine which was replaced by empty—godless—ritual.

Bill Honsberger presented an interesting lecture entitled, “Nietzsche, the Death of God, and the Emerging Church Movement.” While is it ultimately about the Emerging Church movement he arrives at that point via a circumlocution which basically consists of a history of philosophy: download here or listen here.


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1/20/10

Atheism Essays Particular to Bart Ehrman

This post contains hyperlinks to Atheism is Dead’s posts regarding Bart Ehrman:

Bart Ehrman, Interrupted - on the Bible and Christianity

Bart Ehrman’s Millions and Millions of Variants

And there are lots more to come…….
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Science Club of Long Island

In seeking to open dialogue and provide information to the Science Club of Long Island I, very quickly, discovered that its founder, president and publisher, Oleg Dei, is a rather fiery person who appears to run the Science Club of Long Island as an anti-Christian support group.

In part, the Science Club of Long Island’s mission statement states:
It is our mission at the Science Club of Long Island Inc. to bring the current scientific accomplishments and breakthroughs and make them available to the general community at no cost…Topics range from astronomy, evolution, biology, genetics, medicine and physics and other science disciplines.

Overall, the mission statement does not, in the least bit, elucidate why the Science Club of Long Island’s website is exclusively anti-Christian. Their homepage does state that they are “DEDICATED TO PROVIDING SCIENCE EDUCATION TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND DEBUNKING THE SUPERNATURAL.”

They offer various articles related to attempting to discredit the Bible, Jesus and Christianity in general. The main source of research for these is evilbible.com.
In fact, on their home page they reference EVIL BIBLE seven times. This is both their own statement that the Bible is evil (I am not aware how they define “evil”) and it is indicative of their very, very heavy reliance upon anything and everything that is stated in evilbible.com.
Having debunked large portions of evilbible.com (see here) I am well aware that anyone who relies on evilbibe.com is even less scholarly, less informed, less skeptical and much more erroneous than evilbible.com itself.

I will consider specifically debunking their articles although since they rely so very heavily upon evilbible.com; debunking the former equals debunking the latter. One article of interest is “JESUS CHRIST WAS NOT BORN ON DECEMBER 25TH” and could be categorized as: responding to a statement that no one is making.
Another favorite of mine states, “Perhaps James Cameron did more than sink the Titanic in the movie, maybe he sunk Christ the greatest hoax in human history!” and yes, of course, they list “One source: Evil Bible.Com” (see here for James Cameron’s utter failure).

Initially, I was interested in their article, “SLAVERY IS APPROVED BY THE BIBLE!” which was written by “By CHRIS THIEFE AND OLEG DEI” with the obligatory “Source: Evil Bible.Com.” Chris Thiefe runs evilbile.com or rather, he ran it until he got tired of so many people challenging him on his ubiquitous fallacies.

I wrote the following to Oleg Dei expecting that a person of science would be interested in opposing views, reconsidering their own views if need be, and would generally express a wiliness to exchange ideas:
I ran across your page asserting that slavery is approved in the Bible that was cut and pasted from evilbible.com
I wanted to make you aware that I conducted a study of the issue and wrote a point by point response that I know you will find interesting:
Does the Bible and its God Condone Slavery?

I also wrote a companion piece:
Does God Command You to Beat Your Slaves?

In fact, I have done likewise with much of evilbible.com’s content:
Atheism Essays Particular to EvilBible.com
aDios,Mariano

I received the following response (since I am not sure what the different colors, bold and italics are supposed to convey, I will reproduce them as they were in the email):
Nice name!

Yes, we know you spent a lot of time pasting your little articles together!
The study that you have conducted answers none of the points made, you merely injected your excuses in an effort to explain the atrocities in the Bible.
The Bible was written by ancient barbarians who were merely trying to justify violent times.
However in summary you failed to address the many other points made such as Biblical contradictions, rape, the evil God depicted in the Bible that kills at the drop of a hat.
God would not do that! You missed the illogic of religion, Christ failure to return as promised as well as countless of points made which are too numerous to mention!
You never bothered to study the science articles under the magazine section and conveniently assumed that this was just another atheistic website.
We don’t have to tell you what happens when you assume!
For reasons unknown you pasted a silly section on stupid atheistic T-shirts. How childish!
We agree that atheists contribute very little to the poor but you also fail to recognize that it is the religious nuts that start wars like Hitler and Bush, Christian Crusades, inquisitions on and on!
In addition you failed to recognize that the evolution of science is what being taught in schools as the explanation for man’s origins but merely pasted ridiculous articles of intelligent design that is dismissed by the scientific community as well as all the evidence.
Dinosaurs are no longer here, where they kidnapped by aliens or better question was your reasoning kidnapped by religion? Since the Dinosaurs are no longer here, evolution merely explains the change in the fauna of life!
Now just because people
want God to exist, especially us does not mean that he does exist!
We are not atheists that say there is no God!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get your facts straight!
What we are saying based on scientific fact that there is no evidence whatsoever for the existence of
God or any other supernatural phenomenon. Include Ghosts, Bigfoot or little green men from Mars!
People start with the idea that they would like for God to exist and then twist all their thinking around this.

Does not work this way, you have to look were the evidence takes you no matter how uncomfortable
that may be. You don’t built a data base or selection of those facts that support your viewpoint and ignore
everything else! Again you look at all the evidence.

As of now, there is no evidence of a God. If you have some evidence come forward, we know several foundations that will pay a million dollars.
Unfortunately no one has yet claimed the prize!!!!!

SCLI

It is rather odd, or so it seems to me, to state that “The study that you have conducted answers none of the points made” when the only point of my essays was to answer each and every point made—point by point.
Perhaps Oleg Dei meant that my repose was not satisfactory yet, having been engaged in polemics for some time, I discern that it means I take evilbible.com’s word for it, will not practice skepticism, will no conduct further research nor specifically respond to your refutation and thus, I will generically shrug you off.
Note that Science Club of Long Island’s article on slavery in the Bible actually even tops evilbibel.com’s as they pile fallacy upon fallacy by including photos of (recreations of, actually) North American slavery and Kunta Kinte from Roots. Imagine condemning the Bible for that which the Bible condemns and does so by punishing via capital punishment at that.

Well, I wrote back:
Thank you so much for your consideration and getting back to me on this.

If I understand you correctly, I am somehow at fault for not attempting to discredit every single evilbible.com page. Yet, this is fallacious as I wrote to you about the issue of slavery in particular. And while you cut and pasted their assertions into a PDF file I did not paste my essay together but refuted theirs point by point.

Moreover, while you, for some reason, have chosen to un-contextually claim that I failed to address many other points made by evilbible.com such as rape, you would know, via the link that I provided: Atheism Essays Particular to EvilBible.com, that I have done just that—and much more.

What you must consider is that regardless of God’s existence and regardless of the origins of the Bible, the issue is the text of the Bible, whether evilbible.com and you by extension are representing the text correctly, and my refutation of their and your claims.

Your belittlement of myself, general put down of religion in general, references to dinosaurs, aliens, Ghosts, Bigfoot, etc. are irrelevant to our context.

Yet, you may be interested to learn that “The Encyclopedia of Wars” was compiled by nine history professors who specifically conducted research for the text for a decade in order to chronicle 1,763 wars. The survey of wars covers a time span from 8000 BC to 2003 AD. From over 10,000 years of war 123, which is 6.98 percent, are considered to have been religious war.

I discern that you are reacting emotionally to my evidence rather than rationally which is why your response is so very disjointed.
You may want to consider your thoughts as categories and then you will be able to stay on topic and deal with the issue at hand.

Thank you for your time and attention, aDios,
Mariano

The response was rather odd and it was written in a very large font size:
Here is some good articles for you ******* [expletive removed, let us just say that it started with a capital “A”]!
You think Chris Thiefe from Evil Bible is Tough?
I eat stupid dumbass Christians for lunch!
Oleg Dei had attached various of the articles that they provide on the website. Here is my response:
Most excellent, thank you for the information.

I will have to look these over and if need be, post responses on my blog.

There is actually one that I was interested in—Bible says - women are inferior to men—which appeared to be peppered with photos of scantly clad women.
I wonder if you could send me the text and just exclude the photos.

Thank you so much and aDios,
Mariano

PS: I do not think that Chris Thiefe is tough at all; that is a faulty inference.

Well, the discussion ended rather abruptly here and I, disappointingly, got yet another taste of an atheist who wears a façade of intellectual and scientific respectability in order to hide an emotional rejection of God and an inability to deal with issues in a scholarly manner.


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1/19/10

Atheist Foundation of Australia and the Tasmanian Devil

The Atheist Foundation of Australia has decided to waste money on bus ads during a time of recession and disaster.

They are placing bus ads in Tasmania, Australia that read, “Atheism” and “Celebrate Reason!” as if it is reasonable to waste much needed and donated money attempting to boast in how clever they are.



Again, I say as with certain Freedom From Religion Foundation ads: Oh, so close!

The ad came just short of quoting the Bible,

“‘Come now, let us reason together,’ says the LORD.” (Isaiah 1:18).



FYI: be on the lookout for the Atheist Foundation of Australia’s appearance in an upcoming January 22, 2010 AD post…………


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The Freedom From Religion Foundation Again Positively Affirms God’s Non-Existence But Where is the Evidence?

I barely got done posting Dan Barker and the Freedom From Religion Foundation’s Billboards when I learned of a new one. My oh my, they are busy in December—must be nice to have that kind of money!

Last year I reported on their belligerent positive affirmation of God’s non-existence which read:
At this season of the Winter Solstice, may reason prevail.
There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell.
There is only our natural world.Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.
Now they placed ads that state, “Yes, Virginia ... There is no God.”[1]

Freedom From Religion Foundation’s co-founder Annie Laurie Gaylor again affirmed their “faith” based dogmatheism in stating, “The main purpose is to express something that's true that doesn't get said very much -- there is no god -- and it shouldn't be a taboo…If people are mad about it, it's because it's true.”



Just how long will they continue making dogmatheistic assertions about God’s non-existence without evidence?
Do not misunderstand, I find the honesty refreshing but I thought that merely expressing “faith” based assertions was not the manner in which supposedly evidence based atheism function. I know, I know; it is, it is.

Since atheists are not interested in influencing children—wink wink, nudge nudge—“Yes, Virginia ... There is no God” refers to a September 21, 1897 AD edition of The New York Sun which included the phrase “Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.” Thus, the Freedom From Religion Foundation has pictured Santa Clause positively affirming God’s non-existence.


The true Santa:

[1] Monica Guzman, “Seattle's atheist bus ads: So, Virginia, is there a God?,” Seattle pi Blogs, December 14, 2009


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1/18/10

SMRT’s “Five Good Reasons for Being an Atheist”

Over yonder at Atheism Analyzed, Stan wrote Visiting weareSMRT Again which urged me to piggy back on his response to SMRT’s Five Good Reasons for Being an Atheist.
SMRT is “A site for Skeptical Minds & Rational Thinkers” with “SMRT” being “an anagram of Smart Minds and Rational Thinkers (SMRT, Who Are We?).

MacGyverJr wrote the post Five Good Reasons for Being an Atheist (November 2, 2009) and Stan wrote a fine response. I did not intend on attempting to improve upon his but as I read his I could barely believe what were being considered to be the good reasons and just had offer a few comments.

MacGyverJr’s premise is as follows:
It’s easy to point out the flaws in a religion or a certain god, but there’s no need to remain skeptical on a god-to-god basis. Lots of reasons exist irrespective of any single religion that makes atheism palatable. So listed here are five good reasons to be an atheist:

Unfortunately, what “atheism” means is not defined. However, due to the context of the article it is clearly a positive affirmation of God’s non-existence (something which is coming back into vogue in atheist circles).

I could not agree more that “Lots of reasons exist irrespective of any single religion that makes atheism palatable.” Amongst these are that atheism is a pseudo-intellectual excuse for the emotionally driven rejection of God; it is a psychological band-aid. Also, atheism is appealing via various consoling delusions such as the delusion of absolute autonomy, the delusion of lack of ultimate accountability, the delusion of being more erudite than thou, the delusion of subjective meaning in an objectively meaningless existence, etc.

Now, let us consider the “Five Good Reasons for Being an Atheist” one by one:
1. We have not found any gods. Contrary to popular belief, lack of evidence is proof of lack of existence. Take, for example, my claim that there is a unicorn in my garage. If independent scientists came to my house and searched my garage without avail, they would conclude there is no unicorn. The same is true of gods. We have looked, but we haven’t found any, ever.

Unfortunately, the term “found” goes undefined as a methodology. Millions of people claim to have “found God”—was God lost? :o)
Lack of evidence is not necessarily proof of lack of existence. Right now, I am thinking about when, as a child, I sat eating by the sea shore when my father squeezed a lemon on his food but a stream of juice went directly into my brother’s eye. What is the evidence of this? Not only can I not provide evidence that the event occurred (you could ask them but they may have forgotten or we could have collated) but I cannot provide evidence that I was thinking about that event.
Stan provides examples of many things once considered to not being in existence only to be later discovered.
While on some level we have to be agnostics regarding flying purple people eaters on another level we do not have to be aUnicorn-ists or agnome-ist. The levels of which I speak are basically: 1) I do not believe in gnomes because their existence has not been evidenced and 2) no gnomes exist. This is like the atheist assertion to 1) merely lack a belief in god(s) and 2) asserting that god(s) does not exist.
What the “independent scientists” would do is to ask what MacGyverJr meant by reporting a “unicorn.” Is a magical mystical Invisible Pink Unicorn meant? Or, a horse with a horn?
There are many scientists, such as those who established the very fields and methods of science itself, who do claim to have searched for and found God. They have done so by drawing inferences from that which the universe and its fine tuning imply, etc. If MacGyverJr means that we move a rock or look on the dark side of the moon, point our fingers and say, “Hey, look! That’s God right over there!” then that is another issue.
Firstly, it depends on which God we are envisaging. For example, with the God implied by the universe and also reflected in the Bible we must recognize that there is no correlation between a unicorn and this—eternal and immaterial—being. Thus, if there is no unicorn, the same is true of only certain gods.
MacGyverJr needs to elucidate what would be considered finding God; what would be considered evidence of God? For example, seeking physical evidence of a non-physical being is tantamount to seeking wet evidence of a dry object.

2. There are lots of tales of gods. If you need any proof that gods are made up beings, look no further than the amount of mythology surrounding thousands of different gods. Most Christians, Muslims, and Jewish people are atheists to 99% of all the gods ever thought up. Most every agrees that all these gods, like Apollo, are made up. Nothing makes the Judeo-Christian god any more special than Zeus.

I suppose that since there are lots of tales as to how the universe came into being then the universe never came into being. Speaking for Christians; we are not “atheists to 99% of all the gods” but would be more likely to believe that these gods are fallen angels who are deceiving people (for example of this see The “Skeptic’s Annotated Bible” as a Heuristic Device). Thus, we deny that they are ontologically “gods” and thus reject them as “gods” due to them being fallen angels out to deceive: we believe in but do not worship all gods.
In any case, atheists and Christians do not reject other, respectively 100% and 99% of gods, for the same reasons. Atheists paint with a materialistic broom while Christians, being monotheists, deny the existence of any God but the one God implied by nature and expressed in the Bible. This is why it is faulty to correlate the Judeo-Christian God and Zeus.
The overall fallacy here is that since “Most every[one] agrees that all these gods…are made up” (an argument from authority) one can deny that any gods exist at all. This is an expandio ad absurdum.

3. Religion is silly. Take Christianity for example. They believe that they can turn crackers and wine into the symbolic (or real) flesh and blood of Jesus; then they eat it. Also, have you ever taken a look at what the pope wears? The Bible is full of absurdities such as condemning homosexuality but allowing servitude. Religion just doesn’t make any sense.

The fact is that something can be silly and yet, true. Subjective opinions about levels of silliness are irrelevant; this is basically an argument from personal incredulity.
Moreover, this is a non-sequitur since just because “religion” is silly does not mean that God does not exist.
Furthermore, how it is silly to symbolically turn bread and wine into flesh and blood (whatever it may mean to symbolically turn something into something else)?
But what about really claiming to do it? Now we are not speaking of “Christianity” in general but to, for example, Roman Catholicism which claims to possess the ability to transubstantiate: transform the substance of bread/wine into flesh/blood yet, under the appearance of bread/wine. Thus, their claim to a literal transformation amounts to not actually transform the substance (I tackle this issue historically, logically and biblically here).
May one argue that since some atheists believe in “silly” concepts such as a self-created universe, eternal un-cause matter, abiogenesis, etc.; therefore, atheism is false?
The Pope’s regalia is likewise 1) non-biblical, non-God ordained, nor 2) relevant to the issue of God’s existence. May one argue that since some atheists wear “silly” clothes; therefore, atheism is false?
Again, something may strike us as absurd but also be true such as that light behaves as both a particle and a wave—as Prof. Richard Lewontin wrote:
What seems absurd depends on one's prejudice. Carl Sagan accepts, as I do, the duality of light, which is at the same time wave and particle, but he thinks that the consubstantiality of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost puts the mystery of the Holy Trinity "in deep trouble." Two's company, but three's a crowd.

MacGyverJr’s argument amounts to: God does not exist because “The Bible is full of absurdities such as…”
Yet, perhaps a god does exist but had nothing to do with the Bible. Now, why it is absurd to condemn homosexuality but allow servitude is something that is not elucidated; it is a politically correct emotionally charge appeal.
Firstly, any and every reasonably sane person condemns one or another form of sexual act; surely including MacGyverJr. Secondly, servitude allowed for the disadvantaged to pay off debt via working it off; this was a temporary arrangement which became null and void upon the repayment of the debt or at the year of jubilee.
As for the comment, “Religion just doesn’t make any sense”—again, just because something does not make sense to MacGyverJr does not mean that it is not true—or does not exist. Yet, I agree that all man-made religion does not make sense, is false and is the greatest obstacle to a personal relationship with God (see The Most Anti-Religion Book Ever Published).

4. Religion justifies horrible behavior. Last year in California, a proposition was put before the citizens to ban gay marriage. This was proposition 8. Who were some of the biggest donors to prop 8? The Mormons in Utah! There is no doubt that many in the United States use religion to justify their homophobia. Abroad in the Middle East, violence and bombings are all evoked in the name of Islam. Being religious is not the way to bring peace to this world.

Fighting for freedom justifies horrible behavior therefore, no one should fight for freedom.
Prop 8 opposed radically redefining marriage and thus, it is fallacious to correlate the protection of traditional marriage with homophobia. Any and every reasonably sane person condemns one or another form of marriage; surely including MacGyverJr.
The argument is that violence is justified by extremists by appealing to Islam and Mormons support traditional marriage (at least, on this side of heaven) and thus, religion is not the way to bring peace to this world. This is a non-sequitur since that some perpetrate violence in the name of “religion” does not mean that God does not exist.
Also, atheism has been used to justify horrible behavior therefore, atheism is false. In fact, since the most secular century in human history was also the bloodiest; atheism is not the way to bring peace to this world.
Lastly, consider that the “Encyclopedia of Wars” (New York: Facts on File, 2005) was compiled by nine history professors who specifically conducted research for the text for a decade in order to chronicle 1,763 wars. The survey of wars covers a time span from 8000 BC to 2003 AD. From over 10,000 years of war 123, which is 6.98 percent, are considered to have been religious wars.
See Is the Atheist Argument from Religious Violence Cogent? for further elucidation of this fallacy.

5. Prayers don’t work. I have a testable hypothesis for the existence of gods – pray for something and see if it came true. Prayer has been invoked since the dawn of humanity with no avail or proven results. Gods clearly don’t exist or don’t give a squat about human existence. Since the simplest answer is usually preferred, it’s reasonable to conclude that gods don’t exist.

This is a fallacy of not understanding the concept of prayer. Of course prayer fails when it is defined as God being a cosmic Jeeves. This view of prayer has the God at the human’s beck and call; we pray and God is somehow bound to accomplish the task to which He is put—this is iTheism.




Yet, at least form a Judeo-Christian perspective; prayer is primarily about building a personal relationship with God. Prayer’s primary purpose is therefore not to ask for stuff that we want. We pray and yet, God is sovereign and could be said to answer every pray indeed, but He can say “Yes,” “No” or “Wait.”
Also, the argumentum ad God not giving a squatum fails since, for example, sometimes my children ask for my help in performing a certain task but I, knowing better than they, know that they can accomplish the task at hand without my help. I have all the power whereby to help them but choose to not do so and I choose to not do so based on my knowledge that letting them struggle with a task that they are finally able to accomplish on their own is more beneficial to them than having me swoop in and do it for them.
At times, they ask for my help and indeed, they cannot do something without my help, in which case I help them.
At other times, I do not allow them to perform tasks which they are not physically and or mentally prepared to perform. All this and more based upon my greater knowledge and ability (for further elucidation see Atheism, EvilBible.com and Jesus Lied).

Overall, what MacGyverJr accomplished is a very clear example of the presumption of erudition, logical fallacies, and five good reasons for rejecting MacGyverJrian atheism.


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1/17/10

Global Warming and Intelligent Design

Some people seem to be flummoxed by the recent scientific scandal regarding how some scientists deal with other scientists and the data that contradicts their own with regards to global warming; I found myself metaphorically yawning and thinking, “Is this supposed to be new or unusual?”

While I certainly do not care to discuss the issue of global warming, the recent scandal is virtually a word for word example of how orthodox Darwinists deal with Intelligent Design.

I will use as an example the article by Jonah Goldberg, “Groupthink and the Global Warming Industry,” USA Today, December 1, 2009 although any such report will do.

I will also refer the interested reader of the very many examples that I have collected of scientists interpreting evidence and data according to schools of thought, professional rivalries, protecting preferred theories, etc. in the parsed essay: Scientific Cenobites
I also reproduced Rochus Boerner’s essay Some notes on Skepticism in which he dissects various pseudo-skeptical scientific fallacies.

Let us glean from Jonah Goldberg’s article, note how simple it is to insert the words orthodox Darwinism on the one hand and Intelligent Design on the other:
Computer hackers broke into the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in England and downloaded thousands of e-mails and other documents. The CRU is one of the world's leading global warming data hubs, providing much of the number crunching to global policymakers on climate change. And, boy, can they crunch numbers…

CRU scientists discuss with friendly outside colleagues…how to manipulate the data they want to show the world, and how to hide the often flawed data they don't. In one exchange, they discuss the "trick" of how to "hide…

Again and again, the researchers don't object to just inconvenient truths but also inconvenient truth-tellers. They contemplate and orchestrate efforts to purge scientists and journals who won't sing the same global warming hymnal…the CRU director, says a scientific journal must "rid (itself) of this troublesome editor," who happened to publish a problematic paper…we "will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"…

These documents reveal the trick behind how they hide the dissent. Climate change activists often dismiss critics by noting that the skeptics haven't offered their arguments in peer-reviewed literature. Hence why they work so hard to keep dissenters out of the literature!...

First, the climate change industry is shot through with groupthink…Activists would have us believe that the overwhelming majority of "real" scientists agree with them while the few dissenters are all either crazed or greedy "deniers" akin to flat-earthers and creationists. These e-mails show that what's really at work is a very large clique of scientists is attempting to excommunicate perceived heretics for reasons that have more to do with psychology and sociology than physics or climatology.

Second, the climate industry really is an industry. Climate scientists make their money and careers from government, academia, the United Nations and foundations. The grantors want the grantees to confirm the global warming "consensus." The tenure and peer-review processes likewise hinge on conformity. That doesn't necessarily mean climate change is untrue, but it does mean sloppiness and bias are unavoidable.



This is an example of what Judith Curry calls “climate tribalism,” now consider what Jonah Goldberg termed “Journalistic tribalism”:
By now you might have heard something about the scandal rocking the climate change industry, though you can be forgiven if you haven't, since it hasn't gotten nearly the coverage it should…

in big newspapers and TV news, the story has gotten less attention [than on the Internet]. And that's a scandal, too. The New York Times' leading climate reporter, Andrew Revkin (whose name appears in some of the e-mails), won't publish the contents of the e-mail on the grounds it would violate the scientists' privacy. Can anyone imagine the Times being so prissy if such damning e-mails were from ExxonMobil, never mind Dick Cheney?...

The same journalistic tribalism that allowed Dan Rather to destroy his career over "Memogate" keeps reinforcing itself. Rather picked sources who said what he wanted to hear, then he reported what they said as if it were indisputable. The same thing is happening on climate change. Ideological bias is a major factor in the news media's work as a transmission belt for the climate industry. But part of the problem is also that the journalists do a bad job when the majority of "respected" experts agree on anything complicated…

most journalists aren't qualified or capable of working through the climate data. So they opt for the consensus…While there's often reason for governments to hide classified intelligence, there's no reason for climate data to be classified. If the science is a slam dunk, why are CRU researchers keen on hiding their research?

Stephen Meyer has stated, “There are powerful institutional and systematic conventions in science that keep (intelligent) design from being considered a scientific process” to which Barbara Forrest (Southeastern Louisiana University in Hammond) responded, “Oh, baloney; they aren't published because they don't have any scientific data.”[1] The Discovery Institute has provided a list of their peer-reviewed and peer-edited scientific publications here.

Yet, the problem is a deeper one as, for example, there is a ubiquitous claim that any scientist, no matter how educated in science and active in the fields of research, who infers the supernatural is not a “real scientist” doing “real science” because as per PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins (to offer a mere two examples) “science” and “evolution” are synonymous to atheism.

The censorship is not even restricted to specifically attempting to keep Intelligent Design papers from the peer review science journals but it expands to blacklisting individuals from the journals regardless of what their papers convey.
For example, Jonathan Wells is a biologist and wrote a paper dealing with embryology. I attended a lecture in which he presented his research, at the end of the lecture someone asked him what it had to do with Intelligent Design. He answered, “Nothing.” Why should it? He was presenting on embryology without delving into issues of origins or design.
Wells submitted the paper to a peer review science journal, it was approved by the referees right down the line, it was due to be published until; he received an email asking if he was “that” Jonathan Wells, you know, one of those people. Merely due to the fact that Wells has done some work in Intelligent Design his non-Intelligent Design work is being censored.

Note the statement by Scott C. Todd (Department of Biology, Kansas State University),
Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such an hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic.[2]

The reason that this sentiment is fallacious is because it amounts to worldview adherence. If all the data point to an intelligent designer science would thus change in order to accommodate the new evidence: our definition of, our understanding of, science would change. Excluding evidence because it does not fit the theory is unscientific.

This is not rare or unusual; it is to the credit of honest scientists, journalists, and in this case hackers, that such human faults are removed from the heuristic methods of true science.

[1] Dan Vergano and Greg Toppo, “‘Call to arms’ on evolution,” USA Today, March 23, 2005
[2] Scott C. Todd, “A View from Kansas on that Evolution Debate,” Nature, Vol. 401, Sep. 30, 1999, p. 423

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1/16/10

Bart Ehrman, Interrupted - on the Bible and Christianity

“Just so you know,” as per CNN, “Bart Ehrman says he's not the anti-Christ. He says he's not trying to destroy your faith. He's not trying to bash the Bible.”[1]

Oh good, because I would hate to see what someone would say if they were trying to destroy the Christian faith and bash the Bible.

Actually, we have seen it; we have seen it for millennia.

In fact, virtually his entire career has been premised on destroying the Christian faith and bashing the Bible. Certainly, he is not trying to destroy the faith of those Christians who could care less about the Bible’s contents or how it came to be. But to claim that he is not trying destroy the Christian faith and bash the Bible is tantamount to a boxer stating to his opponent, “I’m not trying to hurt you, I just want to punch you until you lose consciousness and I win. Meanwhile I will show other people how to become good boxers so that they can beat their opponent into unconsciousness, until all that is left of them is a non-functioning bag of bones.”

Of course, Bart Ehrman is aware that malicious inferences are drawn from his implication. For example, he wrote:
"Are you out to destroy the Christian religion?" I've been asked this question several times over the past month, as some evangelicals have expressed shock and outrage over my book, "Jesus Interrupted," where I deal with the historical problems of the New Testament. These problems are rife, to be sure. The New Testament contains numerous discrepancies and contradictions; different New Testament authors have different perspectives on key issues, such as who Jesus is and how one can attain salvation; a large number of New Testament books were not written by the people who claim to be their authors; and several key doctrines of Christianity -- the deity of Christ, the Trinity, the idea of heaven and hell -- cannot be found on the lips of the historical Jesus or the pens of his earliest followers. But doesn't that make Christianity bogus? "Are you out to destroy the Christian religion?"

The truth is that I find this question more than a little odd. For one thing, I learned all of these problems in a leading Protestant theological seminary, while taking Bible classes in preparation for Christian ministry. These problems are regularly taught in mainline seminaries (Presbyterian, Lutheran, Methodist, Episcopalian, now Catholic) -- taught by Christians to prospective Christian ministers in order to prepare them for Christian service. Moreover, these problems have been known for decades, in some cases for well over a century.[2]

Indeed, and this is why Ehrman does not reject the Bible, its God and Christianity due to the Bible problem but based on his emotions. At least one reason that Ehrman strayed while others stayed, in the light of the same evidence, is that he was looking for a way out, he was seeking to justify his emotionally charged views. Others tell of learning the very same materials but of also going on to find resolution to the problems. Ehrman was long wresting with his emotions and finally found a way to express them by calling upon others to see the pseudo-light.



Bart Ehrman claims that “the Nicene Creed, which say not a word about belief in the Bible.” The Creed states that Jesus died “On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures.” The Creed is an communal affirmation of belief, one such belief is in Jesus’ resurrection, which is being affirmed via that which is stated in the “Scriptures,” therefore, it is “belief in the Bible” which drives the Creed.

Bart Ehrman then goes from his statements about “belief in the Bible” to concluding:
throughout most of history most Christian thinkers would have been seen this view as theological nonsense. Or blasphemy. The Bible was never to be an object of faith. God through Christ was. Being a Christian meant believing in Christ, not believing in the Bible.

Consider the word of Jesus, gleaning from John ch. 5
…the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. Then Jesus answered and said to them, “…Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life…You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life…if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

The context is that Jesus is encouraging them to consider the witness of His own works. If they will not; then He encourages them to consider the witness to Him of John the Baptist. If they will not; then He encourages them to consider the witness to Him of God the Father. If they will not then; He encourages them to consider the witness to Him of Moses. Moses to whom they turned by consulting the Bible—the Tanakh/Old Testament. The problem was that they had their eyes so focused upon the text that they missed looking around to see of whom the text spoke. Thus, indeed, let us not do the same.

However, let us note that, for example, the Bereans were praised—referred to as more noble or fair minded—for their true and honest skepticism since when Paul taught them they would double check everything he said as they “searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so” (Acts 17:11).

Note that there are circa 260 quotes from and 370 allusions to the Old Testament in the New Testament. For example, the Book of Revelation is 404 verses long, 278 of those verses are allusions to the Old Testament.Jesus directly quoted or alluded to the following Old Testament books:
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, 1st Samuel, 1st Kings, 2nd Chronicles, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Jonah, Micah, Zephaniah, Zechariah and Malachi (see A Jewish Book Called “The New Testament” for details.

There are over fifty references to the scripture(s) in the New Testament and this is not even counting references to the Old Testament by referring to “Moses,” “Isaiah,” etc. or by the quotations and allusions to which I just referred.

Bart Ehrman makes three main points with regards to his Jesus without the Bible arguments (as if he is interested in inspiring the following of Jesus):
1) “Christianity existed before the Bible”
2) “Christianity has existed in places where there were no Bibles to be found…read…[or] understood”
3) “Christianity does not stand or fall with the Bible”

1) Indeed, when we consider “the Bible” to be both the Old and New Testament. Yet, as we have seen; the pattern of reliance upon “the Bible” still applies.
2) Even Peter stated that Paul had written things that were, “hard to understand,” which, by the way “untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction,” and with the addition of affirming that Paul’s words were inspired as they were correlated to scripture, “as they do also the rest of the Scriptures” (2 Peter 3:16 ). Yet, where the Bible was not, or not read, or not understood is whence came false doctrines. And when such communities did manage to life a truly Christian life and hold to traditional/orthodox beliefs it was due to oral traditions or otherwise being able to keep the traditional Christian doctrines alive.
3) Ultimately, perhaps not. But then again; without the Bible what is Christianity? “Being a Christian meant believing in Christ” but how do you know about the true historical Christ without the Bible which is the best record of Him?

Bart Ehrman concludes:
And so, biblical scholarship will not destroy Christianity. It might de-convert people away from a modern form of fundamentalist belief. But that might be a very good thing indeed.

Indeed, biblical scholarship will not destroy Christianity. It might de-convert people away from a modern form of man-made fundamentalist belief (here “fundamentalist” not meaning sticking to the basics but carrying a negative implication). A wide recognition of the Bible’s reliability and a deeper relationship with Jesus is a very good thing indeed.

[1] John Blake, “Former fundamentalist 'debunks' Bible,” CNN, May 15, 2009
[2] Bart Ehrman, “Jesus Saves, Not the Bible,” Newsweek-Washington Post, May 1, 2009


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1/15/10

Austin Dacey and the Psychology Today Sell Out – On Ethics, Bus Ads and Atheism, part 2

We now conclude considering the propaganda written for and by the New York City atheist ad campaign, by Austin Dacey and Michael De Dora, Jr. (spokesperson for the New York City campaign) via the platform of Psychology Today.

The context—historical and grammatical—of the Ten Commandments is that of giving a constitution to a brand new nation that was being built up from the ground up (I detailed this point here). The commandments deal with issues of ethics: its premise and its practice. Thus, they are to be applied to ethically questionable situations in ethical ways. For example, lying to save someone’s life would be ethical as it is protecting a life. This is because in such a case one is not lying in order to deceived someone in order to get away with something is unethical; for self-serving, selfish, petty, purposes.
Stealing to feed your family in a dire situation would be ethical while otherwise stealing would be unethical (or, some may state that in some cases, such as stealing to feed a starving family, one must do certain things even though they are unethical).
To the issue of the one-week old embryos; note that many people, such as Dacey, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Dan Barker etc. always argue in favor of abortion by appealing to a mere clump of cells (which is what we all are in a God-free universe) whilst disregarding the fact of abortions which take place at every single stage of development.
Dan Barker (see Dan Barker's Views On Human Dignity),
a fetus that’s the size of a thumb that has, what, what would you put it in a little locket and hang it around your neck?

Sam Harris,
A 3-day-old human embryo is a collection of 150 cells called a blastocyst. There are, for the sake of comparison, more than 100,000 cells in the brain of a fly. The embryos that are destroyed in stem-cell research do not have brains, or even neurons. Consequently, there is no reason to believe they can suffer their destruction in any way at all.[1]

Richard Dawkins:
Does the embryo suffer? (Presumably not if it is aborted before it has a nervous system; and even if it is old enough to have a nervous system it surely suffers less than, say, an adult cow in a slaughterhouse.)…if late-aborted embryos with nervous systems suffer – though all suffering is deplorable – it is not because they are human that they suffer. There is no general reason to suppose that human embryos at any stage suffer more than cow or sheep embryos at the same developmental stage.[2]

Remember “A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy”?[3] Well, a cow is a sheep is a fly is a human baby. Incidentally, the feeling of pain as an arbiter of when abortion is or is not ethical is an arbitrary assertion; if we could anesthetize somebody’s body completely could we then proceed to murder them? In fact, abortion is none-but the brutal and yes, sometimes painful murder of beautiful, healthy, innocent and defenseless human babies—inhuman, subhuman brutality is committed in dismembering the bodies of babies.

At this point I should perhaps state that I am 100% pro-choice in that I believe that every woman has the right to choose whether or not to get pregnant. Once she is pregnant we deal with ethical issues. For example, in the case of the mother’s life being in jeopardy it is ethical to have an abortion because the alternative is standing by, doing nothing and watching two people die instead of doing something to at least save one life.
But what is the point of abortion? Since life begins at conception (when the sperm fertilized the egg) the person getting the abortion does not want what they know to be a human being to exist any longer, they do not want them to live, they do not want to have to deal with them, and so they take action to rid themselves of this bothersome person.
They dehumanizing them as “zygote,” “embryo,” “conceptus,” “by-product of conception,” etc. Terms which no woman who is looking forward to the birth of her baby would use, “Oh, my by-product of conception just kicked!” This is why it is murder at any stage of development; it is keeping a human being from developing from a fertilized egg into a person who argues in favor of brutalizing babies as long as they are a few inches on the inside of a woman.

Austin Dacey continues,
It cannot tell us why we should follow it, rather than some other set. Of course, it would be no help to add an Eleventh Commandment: Thou Shalt Follow Commandments since the same question would arise about that commandment

Here he is admitting the ultimate metaphysical or transcendental foundation for all and any ethical system and he is missing the point that the regress is actually finite and ends at the foot of the Triune God. This is the case within the context of the Decalogue as well as logically (as I demonstrated with regards to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, the Invisible Pink Unicorns, et al.) and it is why it does indeed, tell us why we should follow it, rather than some other set.
Note, again, that since the Decalogue is the, as it were, founding document of the nation of Israel it provides the premise of, “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me” (Exodus 20:2-3). God liberated the Israelites form the four centuries of slavery—Egyptian slavery, which atheists never condemn—and defeated the gods of Egypt; this is why He is qualified to guide them.

Dacey further states,
We are the ones who must discern whether it is a voice to be trusted…[and] decide which of these voices made the most sense. Moral thinking is like that. No one else can do it for you.

This is another false dichotomy which juxtaposes ethical imperatives such as the Decalogue, on the one hand, and discerning, deciding, thinking, on the other.
Whence did he get the idea that never the twain shall meet? They were meant to meet, they were supposed to meet and they have met. Considering life and logic as we know it, God could not make a statement that was not filtered through human reason since the manner in which we are designed makes it so that all information, from the conceptual to the sensual, is filtered through our minds and brains and are therefore subject to human reason. Moreover, God is the very one who urges us thusly, “let us reason together” (Isaiah 1:18).

Austin Dacey notes:
Sometimes it is said that human life is valuable because we are made in the image of God. But we have no idea what the image of God looks like, except as reflected in the things we find valuable in human beings, like imagination or self-awareness. It is not that we find life to have worth because we believe we are made in the image of God, but rather that we believe we are made in the image of God because we find life to have worth.

Note the disconnect: Sometimes it is said that human life is valuable because we are made in the image of God but we have no idea what the image of God looks like except that we do as reflected in the things we find valuable in human beings, like imagination or self-awareness. This is a non sequitur as we do not need to know what the image of looks like in order to claim that human life is valuable because we are made in that image. By this reasoning we could not claim that life has worth, as Dacey claimed, since we do not know what “worth” looks like except ____________ (fill in the blank). The last sentence is merely a presuppositional atheist assertion.

Dacey does make one positive point even whilst offering a however, however:
No one can ignore the importance of Judeo-Christian values to the history of Western cultures, and no one can deny that faith is a source of virtue for many people. However, in the evolution of humanity, religion arose after the capacity for reason and empathy--the conscience. And in determining which values are best, we have no alternative but to rely on conscience.

As per above, we epistemically agree on the administering function of the conscience whilst disagreeing about the ontology premise upon which it functions; his being “evolution” and mine being theism.

Lastly, having done what he thinks is discrediting the Judeo-Christian ethic Austin Dacey declares “the secular message”,
This is the secular message: Ethics comes from below, not above. It is a message that reaches out to believers as well as atheists--and anyone else who might be riding the subway.

My conclusion is that ethics comes from above and is administered from below and that this God authored and given ethos is a message that reaches out to believers as well as atheists. God leaves no one unguided and un-provided for: He gives all of us His ethos in our very beings and our conscience whereby to administer it; “He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust” (Matthew 5:45).

[1] Sam Harris, “A Dissent: The Case Against Faith - Religion does untold damage to our politics. An atheist’s lament,” MSNBC / Newsweek, Nov. 13, 2006
[2] Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion (Boston & New York: Houghton Mifflin Co., 2006), pp. 293, 297
[3] Ingrid Newkirk, (President, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals-PETA) Vogue, September, 1989


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1/14/10

Friedrich Nietzsche Nails Richard Dawkins

Friedrich Nietzsche is at it again as he continues nailing inconsistent atheists.
First, he all but predicted that which would come about due to the death of God and he was vindicated with a vengeance during the most secular and bloodies century in human history: The Deicidal and Misanthropic Prophecies

Then he nailed atheists who put on the garb of religion: Nietzsche Nails Atheism, Again

He also nailed the FFRF for their neo-Paganism and constant claims to freedom of speech: Friedrich Nietzsche Nails the Freedom From Religion Foundation

Hereinafter I will reproduce an article by American Vision’s Joel McDurmon who has written various interesting books including:
Manifested in the Flesh: How the Historical Evidence of Jesus Refutes Modern Mystics and Skeptics

Biblical Logic: In Theory & Practice

Zeitgeist The Movie Exposed: Is Jesus An Astrological Myth?

Presuppositional Apologetics: Stated and Defended

And let us not forget; The Return of the Village Atheist



Joel McDurmon’s article is titled, “Atheism's Moral Swindle.”[1]

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I long since stopped blogging on atheism, deeming it often a waste of time and occasionally counterproductive. Sometimes, however, the issue merits revisiting. After rereading some old classics, I find the following quotation worth sharing:
When one gives up the Christian faith, one pulls the right to Christian morality out from under one’s feet. This morality is by no means self-evident: this point has to be exhibited again and again, despite the English flatheads. Christianity is a system, a whole view of things thought out together. By breaking one main concept out of it, the faith in God, one breaks the whole: nothing necessary remains in one’s hands. Christianity presupposes that man does not know, cannot know, what is good for him, what evil: he believes in God, who alone knows it. Christian morality is a command; its origin is transcendent; it is beyond all criticism, all right to criticism; it has truth only if God has truth—it stands or falls with faith in God.

In this quotation, many of my readers will immediately detect the echo of Van Til, or Bahnsen, or some other related apologist infused with “worldview,” or presuppositional thinking. Such a guess comes close in content, but misses widely. The surprise: this quotation flows candidly—and insightfully!—from arch-atheist Friedrich Nietzsche.[2] This is not, of course, to say that Van Til derived his ideas from reading Nietzsche—highly unlikely. The point—completely lost on modern atheists—is that when you strike down Christianity, Christian morality necessarily goes with it. Nietzsche candidly professed this, as did his earlier French counterpart Marquis de Sade: no God, no moral imperatives; no “thou shalt,” and no “thou shalt not.” Only, “I will.”

But modern atheists have not only ignored this logical conclusion, they have actually attempted to attack Christianity in the name of Christian morality, calling the Christian God cruel, bloodthirsty, racist, sadomasochistic, etc.[3] Richard Dawkins’ now famous book begins an early chapter with such accusations and much more. Whence the moral outrage?

Nietzsche’s honesty above grows all the more relevant (and this is what sparked me to write this article) when we read his context: he wrote the above as a commentary on the English writer George Eliot, decrying her clinging to morality despite her rejection of God. In fact, according to some accounts, and just as Dawkins, she attacked Christianity in the name of morality, calling the faith “immoral.” Nietzsche spies the “English” inconsistency and condemns her (and thus Dawkins) as a weak, effeminate, and illogical atheist. He writes:
G. Elliot: They are rid of the Christian God and now believe all the more firmly that they must cling to Christian morality. This is an English inconsistency: we do not wish to hold it against little moralistic females à la Eliot. In England [then and now, apparently] one must rehabilitate oneself after ever little emancipation from theology by showing in a veritably awe-inspiring manner what a moral fanatic one is. That is the penance they pay there.
We others hold otherwise.… [then follows the earlier quotation][4]

Upon reading this again, I could not help but think of today’s little rosy-cheeked moralist, Dawkins, preaching against the cosmic bully of the Old Testament, and denouncing the extremes of religion—all the while unaware that he must have the morality of Christendom under his feet (and his audience’s feet) in order to denounce those extremes. Still English, yes, and still inconsistent.

Nietzsche blows up the charade:
When the English actually believe that they know “intuitively” what is good and evil, when they therefore suppose that they no longer require Christianity as the guarantee of morality, we merely witness the effects of the dominion of the Christian value judgment and an expression of the strength and depth of this dominion: such that the origin of English morality has been forgotten, such that the very conditional character of its right to existence is no longer felt. For the English, morality is not yet a problem.[5]

For this reason—for his fearless and relentless consistency—I love reading Nietzsche. The arch-atheist—the honest, consistent atheist—foils all the prominent modern atheists. He knows and admits that Dawkins’ moral indignation arises from the very God he denounces. Nietzsche knows that such moral fire only expresses the prior power and dominion of Christianity. Nietzsche knows that moral indignation itself is borrowed capital from Christendom.
Unlike Dawkins, however, Nietzsche refused to keep pretending. Nietzsche had the intellect to see the connection, and the guts to admit the outcome of his worldview. Modern atheism, apparently, has neither. For them, Christian society provides them enough comfort to enjoy the peace and tolerance of Christian rules while denying the existence of the Rule-giver. For them, morality is not yet a problem—simply because they refuse to admit it. Well, despite the “flatheads,” “this point has to be exhibited again and again,” and I don’t mind letting Nietzsche do so for us.

[1] Joel McDurmon, “Atheism's Moral Swindle,” American Vision, May 01, 2009, © 2008 The American Vision, Inc. All rights reserved.
[2] Friedrich Nietzsche, “Twilight of the Idols,” The Portable Nietzsche, ed. and trans. Walter Kaufman (New York: Penguin Books, 1976), 515–6
[3] See Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion (Boston and New York: Houghton Mifflin, 2006), 31
[4] Friedrich Nietzsche, “Twilight of the Idols,” The Portable Nietzsche, 515
[5] Friedrich Nietzsche, “Twilight of the Idols,” The Portable Nietzsche, 516


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1/13/10

Alvin Plantinga - Warranted Christian Belief

The entire text of philosopher Alvin Plantinga’s book Warranted Christian Belief is available online.

Old school page turners may be interested in the actual tree killing paper printed, ink wasting, glue bound book—where is Al Gore when you need him?!?!



Here are the hyperlinked sections:

Title Page
Dedication
Preface

Part I. Is There a Question?
1. Kant
I. The Problem
II. Kant
A. Two Worlds or One?
B. Arguments or Reasons?
2. Kaufman and Hick
I. Kaufman
A. The Real Referent and the Available Referent
B. The Function of Religious Language
II. Hick
A. The Real
B. Coherent?
C. Religiously Relevant?
D. Is There Such a Thing?

Part II. What is the Question?
3. Justification and the Classical Picture
I. John Locke
A. Living by Reason
B. Revelation
II. Classical Evidentialism, Deontologism, and Foundationalism
A. Classical Foundationalism
B. Classical Deontologism
III. Back to the Present
IV. Problems with the Classical Picture
A. Self-Referential Problems
B. Most of Our Beliefs Unjustified?
V. Christian Belief Justified
VI. Analogical Variations
A. Variations on Classical Foundationalism
B. Variations on the Deontology
C. Is This the de Jure Question?
4. Rationality
I. Some assorted versions of rationality
A. Aristotelian Rationality
B. Rationality as Proper Function
C. The Deliverances of Reason
D. Means-Ends Rationality
II. Alstonian Practical Rationality
A. The Initial Question
B. Doxastic Practices
C. Epsitemic Circularity
D. The Argument for Practical Rationality
E. Practical Rationality Initially Characterized
F. The Original Position
G. The Wide Original Position
H. A Narrow Original Position?
5. Warrant and the Freud-and-Marx Complaint
I. The F&M Complaint
A. Freud
B. Marx
C. Others
D. How Shall We Understand the F&M Complaint?
II. Warrant: The Sober Truth
III. The F&M Complaint Again

Part III. Warranted Christian Belief
6. Warranted Belief in God
I. The Aquinas/Calvin Model
A. Models
B. Presentation of the Model
II. Is Belief in God Warrant-Basic?
A. If False, Probably Not
B. If True, Probably So
III. The de Jure Question is not Independent of the de Facto Question
IV. The F&M Complaint Revisited
7. Sin and Its Cognitive Consequences
I. Preliminaries
II. Initial Statement of the Extended Model
III. The Nature of Sin
IV. The Noetic Effects of Sin
A. The Basic Consequences
B. Sin and Knowledge
8. The Extended Aquinas/Calvin Model: Revealed to Our Minds
I. Faith
II. How Does Faith Work?
III. Faith and Positive Epistemic Status
A. Justification
B. Internal Rationality
C. External Rationality and Warrant: Faith is Knowledge
IV. Proper Basicality and the Role of Scripture
V. Comparison with Locke
VI. Why Necessary?
VII. Cognitive Renewal
9. The Testimonial Model: Sealed upon Our Hearts
I. Belief and Affection
II. Jonathan Edwards
A. Intellect and Will: Which Is Prior?
B. The Affirmations of Faith
III. Analogue of Warrant
IV. Eros
10. Objections
I. Warrant and the Argument from Religious Experience
II. What Can Experience Show?
III. A Killer Argument?
IV. Son of Great Pumpkin?
V. Circularity?

Part IV. Defeaters?
11. Defeaters and Defeat
I. The Nature of Defeaters
II. Defeaters for Christian or Theistic Belief
III. Projective Theories a Defeater for Christian Belief?
12. Two (or More) Kinds of Scripture Scholarship
I. Scripture Divinely Inspired
II. Traditional Christian Biblical Commentary
III. Historical Biblical Criticism
A. Varieties of Historical Biblical Criticism
B. Tensions with Traditional Christianity
IV. Why Aren’t Most Christians More Concerned?
A. Force Majeure
B. A Moral Imperative?
C. Historical Biblical Criticism More Inclusive?
V. Nothing to be Concerned About
A. Troeltschian Historical Biblical Criticism Again
B. Non-Troeltschian Historical Biblical Criticism
C. Conditionalization
VI. Concluding Coda
13. Postmodernism and Pluralism
I. Postmodernism
A. Is Postmodernism Inconsistent with Christian Belief?
B. Do These Claims Defeat Christian Belief?
C. Postmodernism a Failure of Nerve
II. Pluralism
A. A Probabilistic Defeater?
B. The Charge of Moral Arbitrariness
14. Suffering and Evil
I. Evidential Atheological Arguments
A. Rowe’s Arguments
B. Draper’s Argument
II. Nonargumentative Defeaters?

[Original] Index
Indexes
Index of Scripture References
Greek Words and Phrases
Index of Pages of the Print Edition


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Austin Dacey and the Psychology Today Sell Out – On Ethics, Bus Ads and Atheism, part 1

What happens when you give Austin Dacey the floor of Psychology Today to discuss ethics with the advent of atheist bus ads/billboards? You get Austin Dacey teaming up with Michael De Dora, Jr., who is the spokesperson for the New York City campaign (surely, a coincidence), and an anti-Judeo-Christian tirade disguised as psychology, or philosophy, or something.[1]

Sadly, the article is not only propaganda written for and by the New York City atheist ad campaign, it is an attempt to discredit Judeo-Christian ethics/theology which plays upon fallacious atheist talking-points. This is not surprising as the very purpose of the article besmirches Judeo-Christianity and promulgates a pseudo-gospel: “This is the secular message.”
Granted, the article presupposes atheism yet, that is not its main problems which is that 1) it demonstrates a basic lack of knowledge of the Bible’s statements on ethics, 2) on how they are premised, 3) on how they are administered and most problematic 4) it presents a false dichotomy which juxtaposes divine commandments, on the one hand, and our ability to—our need to—muse upon and or react to moral situations, on the other.

Austin Dacey specifically references “the ‘good without God’ posters” and notes that certain media outlets have “characterized them as ads promoting atheism” which they most certainly do and which is acknowledge, “the campaign aims to reach out to nonbelievers” yet, “it also raises a broader issue—something most people seem to have missed.” First, note that they promote atheism by urging the rejection of God and they are being promoted by having atheists such as Austin Dacey and Michael De Dora, Jr. use the platform of Psychology Today to seek to discredit one particular theology whilst promoting atheism.

Dacey writes,
The obvious meaning of "good without God" is that atheists can be good people. But a closer look reveals a more universal message: people can be good regardless of their beliefs about God. From this perspective, the ad was not about atheism, but about the nature of morality…When we act ethically, our reasons are usually nothing transcendental, just simple respect and compassion for others.

That “atheists can be good people” is something that I am not aware that anyone contends (the fact that studies consistently show that they are the least “good” amongst us is another matter) yet, seeking to defeat an argument that no one has made is a favored premise for atheist talking-points.
Let us dive right into his, apparent, lack of knowledge of the Biblical statements on this matter as he states, “people can be good regardless of their beliefs about God”: true,
when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them (Romans 2:14-15).

These two verses are enough to discredit Austin Dacey’s criticism’s of Judeo-Christian theology with regards to ethics since they postulate that 1) Gentiles—non-Jews who do not believe in God (the only true God as per the Bible’s context)—can be moral, 2) because “regardless of their beliefs about God” they show the work of the law written in their hearts, 3) as the law—the moral code, the ethos—is administered via their conscience which bears witness; convicts or excuses/condemns or approves. In fact, the Bible further claims that people can abuse their conscience to the point that they end up, “having their own conscience seared with a hot iron” (1st Timothy 4:2).
For now, let us note that he offers a sort of definition of ethics as “simple respect and compassion for others”; why we should be ethical, have respect and compassion, goes unstated—this is his atheist commandment. He does not seem to consider that what is necessary, what his commandment is missing, is a premise. A premise will always turn out to be something transcendental as when we ask “Why express respect and compassion?” another assertion will be made to which we can again ask “Why…?” and then another assertion will be made to which we can again ask “Why…?” and on it goes. What we need is an ultimate premise, an ethical ontology and not just an epistemology—we need an ethos.

Dacey wrote, “No set of commandments is self-authorizing…no voice of moral authority is self-authenticating” which, if we grant it, means that neither are Austin Dacey’s condemnations of Judeo-Christian ethics self-authenticating nor his commandment; to what then is he appealing? As G.K. Chesterton noted, “all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind.”[2] We will see that he ultimately bases his condemnation on “the secular message [emphasis added].”

Austin Dacey continues:
With split seconds to save a stranger from death on the tracks at the 137th Street subway station, Wesley Autrey didn't pause to seek divine guidance or reflect on his reward in heaven…As Autrey later explained, "I just saw someone who needed help. I did what I felt was right." The exact words that went through his head were, "Fool, you got to go in there." Responsibility is like that. No one else can claim it for you.

While the implication is that this was pure impulse; it was premised upon the transcendental ethos—ontology—and was impulsive only by having been premised upon the ethos; in other words it was a moments action that was prepared by a lifetime of ethical considerations, specific training and maybe, maybe even God’s urging.
While it is stated that he “didn't pause to seek divine guidance…” Autrey did stated, “I had to make a split decision,” and “Since I do construction work with Local 79, we work in confined spaces a lot. So I looked, and my judgment was pretty right. The train did have enough room for me” so part of it was a trained assessment based reaction. Moreover, it is very odd to note that it, again, was not merely impulsive but directed by “words that went through his head”; might this be God’s “still, small voice”? Perhaps “Autrey didn't pause to seek divine guidance” but he got is anyway.
In any regard, Autrey stated that he “just saw someone who needed help. I did what I felt was right” but what if he felt that what was right was to save his own skin and sit safely by? Well, in an atheistic/Darwinian sense this too would be moral as it would go some ways toward assure the propagation of his DNA whilst leaving the less fit to be run over by a train—he has young daughters and needs to be there to provide for them.

The statement that “Autrey didn't pause to…reflect on his reward in heaven” is an unfortunate statement in that it is 1) presumptive, 2) unnecessarily belligerent and 3) a fallacious atheist talking-point to which I have responded in the essay: The Red Light of Punishment

Employing another apparently compulsory jab at Judeo-Christianity, Austin Dacey continues,
Moral choices are not always as clear-cut as Autrey's. The solution to complex ethical debates is seldom as clear as a stone tablet or a voice from a burning bush. One problem with stone tablets is that there is only so much you can fit on them. Lists of shalts and shalt nots in and of themselves can never be comprehensive and precise enough to render right answers on borderline cases and contemporary issues.

This sort of statement is exemplary of making an accurate assessment but coming to the wrong conclusion—and that, due to a lack of knowledge, or so it seems to me. This is because indeed, ethical choices are not always clear-cut yet, he seems to think, as he is sadly reinforced in his conclusion by many Judeo-Christians, that by an absolute ethical code or ethos what is meant is one single and narrow prescription for each and every situation.
This is not so, what is absolute is the premise, the ontology, the ethos: the spirit of the law is the parchment upon which the letter of the law is written. This premise/ontology/ethos/spirit of the law is no mere list of “shalts and shalt nots” but it is what provides the basis upon which to render right answers on borderline cases and contemporary issues.

As an example of the supposed non-specificity of the “shalts and shalt nots” Austin Dacey notes,
"Shalt not kill" does not resolve whether one-week old embryos count as the kind of thing that may not be killed; "shalt not steal" does not explain when derivatives trading becomes stealing.

I note a tinge of desperation whereby to turn murder into a “secular message” approved, ethical, act. Note that he references “kill” while I refer to “murder” which is, regardless of the translation, that to which the biblical text refers (killing being the legal and moral taking of a life such as in self-defense, a just war, etc. while murder is the illegal and immoral taking of an innocent life such as happens in the midst of committing a crime). Of course, there are other “shalt nots” such as not committing adultery for which there is no reason to break but only fallacious excuses—this is because there is no way to make adultery into something ethical, there is no moral good which comes from it.

[1] Austin Dacey, Ph.D., “The Secular Conscience - Why belief belongs in public life - Putting God out of the ethics business - The deeper meaning of the "good without God" ad campaign,” Psychology Today, November 2, 2009
[2] In a chapter of his book “Orthodoxy” entitled “The Suicide of Thought”


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1/12/10

Darwin’s Dilemma of Suppressing Opposing Views by Means of Unnatural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Theories in the Struggle for Life

The suppression saga continues as more details are unveiled about the Science Center’s censorship of the documentary Darwin’s Dilemma:

Discovery Institute independently obtained incriminating emails involving Center officials that should have been turned over by the Center but weren’t…

Science Center Vice President Christine Sion specifically cited alleged damage to the Center’s “relationship with the Smithsonian” as the reason for canceling the Darwin’s Dilemma screening. In its open records request, Discovery Institute had asked for all documents relating to the screening cancellation that referenced the Smithsonian…

Another email from a Smithsonian official to the Science Center complaining about the screening was likewise suppressed…[1]

We will have to keep awaiting the outcome of the investigations whilst supposed champions of reason and science openly support censorship.



Previous posts on this matter:
Darwinism by Censorship – “Darwin’s Dilemma” Gets X’d

Darwinism by Censorship – “Darwin’s Dilemma” Gets X’d—Addendum

Other reports:
Los Angeles Times Reporting on Lawsuit Against California Science Center for Canceling Intelligent Design Film











[1] John West, “California Science Center Engaged in Illegal Cover-Up to Hide the Truth About Its Censorship of Pro-Intelligent Design Film,” Evolution News, January 4, 2010


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Atheism and Science - Is There a Relation?, part 3 - On the Difference Between Science and Philosophy: Richard Dawkins

In that which follows I will 1) agree with Richard Dawkins, 2) point out his “faith” based adherence to atheistic materialism and 3) answer his ultimate question.

In part 1; I explained that atheists who claim to base their atheism on science are actually admitting to purposefully employing a method, the scientific method, that was intelligently designed to only explore the material, which observes and experiments upon the material and does so in order to come to material conclusions and then claim that the material is all that there is.

In part 2, we saw how Massimo Pigliucci explained the difference between science and philosophy and elucidated that science is premised upon philosophy. That is to say that science, methodological materialism, and atheism (of which ever sect) is based on metaphysics: intangible, immaterial, unobserved, un-experimented upon, not proved nor evidenced but assumed—first principles, axioms, propositions, presuppositions, which are intuited.

Richard Dawkins has made various statements about how religion, theism, etc. are really irrelevant since 1) he is an atheist and such is what follows but more specific to our point 2) “science” (by which he means methods meant to prove his view of atheism) will ultimately answer all and every question or they will be left unanswered as “religious” answers are to be rejected—he is a big fan of answering question by appealing to the scientists-are-working-on-it of the gaps.

This means that, in this view, evidence of creation via Intelligent Design is not only lacking but is impossible since not matter what is being evidenced the answer will be that someday, oh someday, we will surely find a God-free materialistic explanation—this is “faith”; thy kinglessdom come.

My interest is in his statements, a mere couple which I reproduce here, to the affect of if science cannot explain it religion cannot either (or, as a convenient byproduct if religion does explain it, it is not science):
the deep questions — why do we exist, why does the universe exist, how big is the universe, how old is the universe, how old is the world…They are the questions that I suppose historically have been answered by religion — or have attempted to be answered by religion.[1]

I am tempted to parse the deep question considering that we must ascertain what sort of answers we seek. For example, one could answer “why do we exist” by claiming that nothing caused an eternal and uncaused piece of matter to explode for no reason and made everything. Or, that lightning struck a swamp and life came from non-life. Or, God created the heavens and the Earth and human beings in His image.

When asked “What about the old adage that science deals with the ‘how’ questions and religion deals with the ‘why’ questions?” Richard Dawkins responded:
I think that's remarkably stupid, if I may say so. What on earth is a "why" question?...They mean "why" in a deliberate, purposeful sense…Those of us who don't believe in religion -- supernatural religion -- would say there is no such thing as a "why" question in that sense. Now, the mere fact that you can frame an English sentence beginning with the word "why" does not mean that English sentence should receive an answer…[2]

If you have read the transcript of the 1948 AD debate between Bertrand Russell and F.C. Copleston you know that this is a paraphrase of Russell who seemed to think that if he claims that a question or statement is meaningless then can simply sidestep the issue—“the universe is just there and that’s all” was stated during this exchange.

Dawkins also stated:
There are core questions like, how did the universe begin? Where do the laws of physics come from? Where does life come from?...Those are all perfectly legitimate