5/3/09

In the News: Loftus vs. Craig

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41 comments:

  1. It would be an interesting debate. And probably it will occur.

    Also, I'd like to see Loftus debating christian philosopher and debater Peter Williams, the author of "A sceptic's guide to atheism"

    http://www.damaris.org/cm/shop/product/60/


    By the way, Craig's most recent edited book (co-edited with Paul Copan) entitled "Contending with Christianity's Critics: Anwering New Atheists and Other Objectors" is available for pre-order in Amazon.com

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  2. On John's blog, he has frequently said, when an atheist loses, that it doesn't matter anyway because a debate just shows who has the better skills, and does not prove anything.

    So what's the point? Loftus will likely lose, and then say it is just because Craig is a more experienced debater.

    And as to Chivalry, John has little...in his book he calls Craig his "friend" but then goes on to specifically call him "delusional". John in well known for his temper tantrums, and his penchant for trying to smear people who oppose him.

    I think this is just a stunt, and, psychologically, John is crying out for validation that he has not wasted his life by trying to debate an old teacher.

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  5. Plus I think somebody has hacked Andrew's account.

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  6. Yeah BenYachoff, I agree, you are a troll. A stupid one too.

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  7. And just for the record, I do not molest children. The desire to molest children is not a sin, acting on it is. And I have never innapropriately touched a child. Plus it's legal to have sex with adult men. So back off.

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  9. I forgive you Anonymous for pretending to be me & for puting up phony post under my name. I bear you no hatred. I'll pray for you.

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  10. well you've got to admit, it does liven the place up a bit. I've pretty much given up on this blog after it was evident that Mariano never looks at his comments.

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  12. I STILL forgive you Anonymous for pretending to be me & for puting up phony posts under my name. I bear you no hatred. I'll STILL pray for you.

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  14. Andrews account has obviously been hacked.

    Now, who do we know who fakes posts on his blog and even sets up fake blogs on people like Holding?

    Hint: His initials are JL

    The Skeptical Skeptic

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  15. By the way, according to John's own book John was accused of rape by Linda.

    Plus, again according to the book, his own cousin didn't trust him.

    Skeptical Skeptic.

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  16. By the way, John is currently working as a janitor at Brock's cleaning service.

    Skeptical Skeptic

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  17. In the name/URL profile one could with ease post anybody's name & then post the URL of their profile to give the appearence of having hacked into their google account.

    I believe this is what "Anonymous" is doing.

    It's very childish.

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  18. Yeah you're getting the point aren't you "forgive and pray for" boy.

    But deep in your silly "spending too much time on a useless blog" brain "defending an invisible fictional entity, you must know you are no less childish than any of us.

    Yeah I know, you still forgive me and pray for me.

    Maybe you should do something useful.

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  19. Read my lips: It. Will. Never. Happen.

    And it wouldn't be pretty if it did. John may have done well against Wood because Wood also had a casual speaking style. But that was in general a very slow-speaking debate on *one* topic. I don't think John was very good at organizing his speeches on the spot in that debate, and just imagine one with a *lot* of issues to cover. He would get blown away because of not being able to keep up.

    Oh, and did I mention: It. Will. Never. Happen.

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  20. I pray God delivers this person from his/her bitterness. They are clearly not happy.

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  21. Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.-James 1:2-3

    Matthew 5:10-12

    Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.
    Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you.

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  22. I see that the level of discourse here has risen up a notch or two. A pity that it takes a hacker/troll to actually generate some discussion.

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  23. >A pity that it takes a hacker/troll to actually generate some discussion.

    I reply: What discussion?

    Cheers & God Bless.

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  26. Wow, that's a first. I've never seen anyone so insecure in their beliefs that they would fake someone's blog name. How very (non-)clever. Pathetic.

    Regards,
    The real 4Simpsons

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  27. I feel like it shakes things up a bit, heck even brought our wayward son 4Simpsons back from the grave. But when it's all said and done, arguing minutia fron 1800 years ago and their proponents can get (non-) clever and pathetic.

    Yeah, yeah, I know you guys are so interesting, this one clown just keeps forgiving me, it makes him feel righteous.

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  28. the original AnonymousMay 4, 2009 at 7:08 PM

    Here's a neat one, 4simpsons is over at his blog argueing whether Hitler was a Christian. Are you guys still beating that one? Who cares if he was a Christian? Will you guys always be so dimensionally challenged? One of the reasons the Republican party, my party, is dying, is that it has tethered itself to a dying belief. Fundamentalist Christianity.

    And yet you call this nuckle-head troll un-creative?

    Was Hitler a Christian? Did Cicero do jigsaw puzzles, was Mailer a breakdancer? C'mon dude.

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  29. I still forgive you. And I'm very proud to say that I have indeed stopped molesting young boys. And I'm going to just assume that all of the young boys I have molested have forgiven me, even though we are still in court. Forgiveness is wonderful.

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  30. Original Anonymous,

    I was commenting on a foolish comment and atheist troll left at my site.

    Regards,
    Original 4Simpsons

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  31. the original anonymousMay 5, 2009 at 1:52 PM

    I was commenting on a foolish comment and atheist troll left at my site.
    How do you know he's an Atheist 4simpsons?

    How do you know he's a he?

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  32. anonymous writes:
    >BenYachov said...I still forgive you.And I'm very proud to say that I have indeed stopped molesting young boys.

    I still forgive you anonymous for your teenage antics. I will pray for you & for conversion to Our Lord Jesus Christ. King of Heaven and Earth.

    The Real BenYachov.

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  33. The original anonymous, who now goes by TEDMay 5, 2009 at 6:15 PM

    Alright, Ben we get it, you are a forgiver. Very admirable. Give it a rest will ya? You're just feeding this troll.

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  34. I'm the only troll we need, not this other guy.

    (notice the moniker Ted)

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  38. I still forgive you for your lies XAtheistX & I will keep forgiving you forever.

    The Real BenYachov

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