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  1. AndrewAugust 20, 2008 at 7:17 PM

    This is so typical, when it comes to censorship it always seems that anti Muslim stuff is not published, and let's face it Muslim is so false, you can tell.
    But anti Christian stuff, well they love that, maybe Christians should do a little more killing. Then they'll get the message. That day will come I'm sure.

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  2. Samuel SkinnerAugust 20, 2008 at 8:21 PM

    I'm sensing your conclusion is "stop pocking on us and attack Islam". Would you like me to remind you thatr we are arguing about damage AND truth. In the US, Islam isn't a big problem anyways- it is for Europe.

    Of course, as an antitheist I am against both. I'd like to take this opportunity to mock those who side with the "oppressed" Muslims or the "lesser of two evils" Christians.

    The former is idiotic. The latter is wishful thinking- the enemy of your enemy will back stab you when you win. It is better to stand alone than to be betrayed. Besudes, you can't attack Islam and defend Christianity without being a hypocrite.

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  3. SmartLXAugust 20, 2008 at 11:14 PM

    Hello, what happened to this blog being neutrally theistic?

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  4. AnonymousAugust 21, 2008 at 5:48 AM

    Hey D.Cool,

    It will be a glorious day when God finally sweeps the hearts of men with the regenerating work of the Spirit.

    Then maybe even folks like Samuel Skinner will be able to see how futile their philosophy is, and accept the grace of Jesus Christ.

    Until America experiences another such "great awakening" I'm afraid we're doomed to see more of this sort of censoring and unjust ethical behavior.

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  5. ModusoperandiAugust 21, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Shotgun "Until America experiences another such "great awakening" I'm afraid we're doomed to see more of this sort of censoring and unjust ethical behavior."
    Then we can add the Koran to the pile, as per Acts19:19, along with those insufferable Harry Potter novels.

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  6. AnonymousAugust 22, 2008 at 12:55 PM

    Is this an anti-Islam Christian blog now?

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  7. AnonymousAugust 23, 2008 at 6:20 PM

    Mr. Modus,

    Excusing a proper exposition of the historical context of Acts 19 for the moment, perhaps you could answer a question for me?

    Given the truth of your worldview, why would censoring the Koran be any better or worse than censoring something like...say...murder?

    I realize one is a literary manifestation of ideas, while the other is a physical manifestation.

    Why should "we" censor one, and not the other, (in your view?)

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  8. KenAugust 24, 2008 at 8:21 AM

    Thank you all for your thoughtful comments:
    SmartLX;
    I do not understand your statement. Is my comparison between Rushdie and Brown inaccurate? What is not neutral about noting these comparisons? Also, there is no restriction on contributors to be neutral.

    Kuhlmann;
    What have you read on Atheism is Dead which is anti-Islam?

    aDios,
    Mariano

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  9. ModusoperandiAugust 24, 2008 at 4:48 PM

    shotgunwildatheart "Excusing a proper exposition of the historical context of Acts 19 for the moment,"
    It's not my interpretation. Look to your own.

    "...perhaps you could answer a question for me?"
    I can try.

    "Given the truth of your worldview, why would censoring the Koran be any better or worse than censoring something like...say...murder?
    I realize one is a literary manifestation of ideas, while the other is a physical manifestation."
    So, you've answered your own question, then. Kudos!
    Incidentally, I'm against burning one and killing the other. I can't (and wouldn't) stop you from the former (even though book burning makes me sad, it's both free speech and your own property), but I would attempt to prevent the latter. My thumbs are licensed as deadly weapons.
    As reasonable evidence for this "truth", burn a book of yours, then try to sneak up behind yourself and murder you. I think you'll find that the latter bares a sting far greater than the former.

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  10. AnonymousAugust 25, 2008 at 7:22 AM

    So, thanks for completely not answering my question.

    Why would you support the censoring of physical manifestations of ideas, and not support (at least emotionally) the censorship of literary manifestations?

    I realize this is a big boy question, but please, give it a "shot” (wink)

    Oh, and P.S.

    Make sure you know what you're talking about when you try to characterize my position. In this case you used poor judgment Mr. Modus. In a Christian society such books (like Harry Potter) wouldn't need to be burned due to their miserable failure in the marketplace (no matter what some Charismatic Pastor may say). Perhaps one day the Koran will be deemed sufficiently irrelevant as well, and can be safely relegated to the dark corners of some long forgotten library.

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  11. SmartLXAugust 25, 2008 at 11:03 PM

    Mariano, the sole purpose of the post is to compare reactions to a book many Muslims won't like to reactions to a book many Christians didn't like, and indicate that either the former is an overreaction or the latter was an underreaction. Either way, the message is that Christians are getting a raw deal compared to Muslims.

    If you've got any Muslim readers, I'd like to hear their reactions to that. And perhaps you don't require yourselves to be neutral (I may be remembering the mission statement from AS instead), but this post doesn't seem to have much to do with atheism either.

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  12. AnonymousAugust 27, 2008 at 6:31 PM

    "Is this an anti-Islam Christian blog now?"

    If you can REALLY read anti-islam sentiments in the post, you must have a lot more sympathy for Islam than you realised.

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  13. ModusoperandiAugust 28, 2008 at 12:27 AM

    shotgunwildatheart "So, thanks for completely not answering my question."
    No. Thank you.

    "Why would you support the censoring of physical manifestations of ideas, and not support (at least emotionally) the censorship of literary manifestations?"
    Hey! I did answer your question. One is a book. The other, like soylent green, is people.

    "I realize this is a big boy question, but please, give it a "shot" (wink)"
    I would prefer that you not lick your lips when winking at me. It's creepy. Also, get your hand off my thigh.

    "In a Christian society such books (like Harry Potter) wouldn't need to be burned due to their miserable failure in the marketplace..."
    Harry Potter? Seriously? I've never been a Rowling fan myself (I'm more Hogan/Harrison/Heinlein/Herbert. Yes, that does form an odd pattern), but "a Christian society" wouldn't enjoy the fictional tale of a kid who goes to wizard school? Blah. If "a Christian society" doesn't read Rowling then I'm glad I'm a square peg, as your round hole looks dark and unappealing. OMG! That's soooo not a double entendre. You can giggle anyway. I did.

    "...(no matter what some Charismatic Pastor may say)."
    Yeah! Take that, interpretations of the Bible other than your own!

    "Perhaps one day the Koran will be deemed sufficiently irrelevant as well, and can be safely relegated to the dark corners of some long forgotten library."
    Or at least the fiction section of some library rather than the "dark corners" of a "long forgotten" one.
    Failing that, hope for an Enlightenment, so that at least some of the groups within the big tent of Islam that take a book that's easy to read literally literally stop taking it so literally. Literalism is problematic when God's Truth doesn't line up with His universe.

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  14. ModusoperandiAugust 28, 2008 at 12:28 AM

    Wait! "...wouldn't need to be burned..."?!

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  15. KenSeptember 6, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    UPDATE:
    “In August, the Serbian publisher BeoBook released ‘The Jewel of Medina’ but then quickly withdrew it from stores after protests from local Islamic leaders who said it insulted Mohammed and his family.”

    Now the book will be published by Gibson Square.

    See news story here.

    aDios,
    Mariano

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